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[Chips]

The conservative Roberts, surprised court watchers by joining the four liberal justices to form a 5-4 majority.

God Save Us.

[jbs49238]

The conservative Roberts, surprised court watchers by joining the four liberal justices to form a 5-4 majority.

God Save Us.

After the immigration ruling last week were you really surprised by this?

SCOTUS has determined that the mandate is a tax which actually could make it much easier to repeal, but no group of bought and paid for politicians will ever commit career suicide... so YEAH... we are stuck with it.

Roberts is a Bush appointee... what gave you the idea he was a conservative?

[LessGovernment]

The plan all along was to turn insurance companies into utilities/tax collection agencies - insurance companies(like any other company), lobby to GET RICH; the gubbermint says "OK - just make sure we get a cut" ...

So obvious ... this nation serves money and creature comforts, and it now has become our undoing ... thanks to the Federal Reserve System - which again - was the PLAN all along!

There is NO difference between establishment Republicans and establishment Democrats - there is however, a difference between a Statesman and a politician!

[Frenchfry]

Why Did Justice Roberts Rule In Favor Of Obamacare?
Why did Justice John Roberts go against his fellow conservatives on the Supreme Court to rule in favor of President Obama's health care plan?

Why Did Justice Roberts Rule In Favor Of Obamacare?

[LessGovernment]

The Supreme Court is wrong: ObamaCare is UNCONSTITUTIONAL

[Baby Hitler]

The plan all along was to turn insurance companies into utilities/tax collection agencies - insurance companies(like any other company), lobby to GET RICH; the gubbermint says "OK - just make sure we get a cut"

Actually this is going to stop the exorbitant prices that insurance companies charge. They now will have to pay back to either the individuals or businesses that they sell insurance to, if they do not pay at least 80% of the premiums towards actual health care.

The first of these rebates total over $1,000,000,000.00.

[LessGovernment]

My guess, the gubbermint will be issuing the "refunds" from the insurance companies that "ripped everyone off" for years ... that HELPS politicians get elected!

And actually; the way to drive down medical costs is(as Ron Paul has always said), get gubbermint OUT of it ...

[marilyn.monroe]

The insurance companies will pass the cost on to the consumers like most corporations do. Reform isn't going to do it, we need fundamental change. Health care should be about helping sick people, not filling the coffers of the privileged.

[John Kopke]

So, if I understand correctly, the deal is if I don't buy health insurance then I will be taxed $ 2000 a year as a penalty. But it isn't a penalty, it is a tax. That clears things up.

So the good news for me is since I do buy health insurance I won't be taxed the $ 2000. But here is the thing. With Obamacare an insurance company cannot deny me coverage for a pre-existing condition. So why am I paying a whole lot more each year to have ongoing health insurance coverage when I could save a ton of money just paying the comparatively meager tax and then sign up for health insurance only when I get sick?

 

[lordfly]

I, for one, welcome our healthcare-wielding overlords.

[Baby Hitler]

The insurance companies will pass the cost on to the consumers like most corporations do. Reform isn't going to do it, we need fundamental change. Health care should be about helping sick people, not filling the coffers of the privileged.

Obviously you didn't read my post. They are required to spend 80% of the premiums towards actual health care. If they don't they have to give a refund.

[Baby Hitler]

So, if I understand correctly, the deal is if I don't buy health insurance then I will be taxed $ 2000 a year as a penalty. But it isn't a penalty, it is a tax. That clears things up.

So the good news for me is since I do buy health insurance I won't be taxed the $ 2000. But here is the thing. With Obamacare an insurance company cannot deny me coverage for a pre-existing condition. So why am I paying a whole lot more each year to have ongoing health insurance coverage when I could save a ton of money just paying the comparatively meager tax and then sign up for health insurance only when I get sick?

 

Actually the amount for the first year is 1% of your AGI. When it ends it will be 2.5% of your AGI. So if you currently are making $200,000 a year, then yes, the first year would cost you $2000 and would top out at $5000 a year.

If you just sign up for health insurance when you get sick, or wind up in the hospital, well let's just say you can't buy house insurance while your house is on fire, first you have to wait till the fire is put out, then you can buy insurance. Until then, you are on the hook for the bills you incur.

Buying insurance would be a better way to protect your ASSets.

[John Kopke]

Actually the amount for the first year is 1% of your AGI. When it ends it will be 2.5% of your AGI. So if you currently are making $200,000 a year, then yes, the first year would cost you $2000 and would top out at $5000 a year.

If you just sign up for health insurance when you get sick, or wind up in the hospital, well let's just say you can't buy house insurance while your house is on fire, first you have to wait till the fire is put out, then you can buy insurance. Until then, you are on the hook for the bills you incur.

Buying insurance would be a better way to protect your ASSets.

FB:

I understand. Thanks for setting me straight. But I really thought Obamacare mandated insurance companies cover pre-existing conditions. That's what I hear on the news. Now you tell me it isn't so.

[marilyn.monroe]

Obviously you didn't read my post. They are required to spend 80% of the premiums towards actual health care. If they don't they have to give a refund.

Yes, I am paying attention to your posts FB! That doesn't mean they can't raise the premium, does it? It's an interest free loan for their investment schemes. What happens when their big bad investments fail? The government borrows money to bail them out. This reform is a band-aid.

[John Kopke]

Sammy:
Do you think Obamacare will have an effect on your healthcare benefits?