Making fun of others for what they believe. Why do it?
This is a category to discuss and debate religion. I enjoy discussing and debating it. I think it can be beneficial. Look at Dawkins, Hitchens, and Harris. They oppose religion with fiery zeal, and it's paid off for them. They've won scores to their side. As a Christian I didn't like their style, but it was effective in bluntly driving points home to me. And I'm thankful to have been awakened from such a delusion.
Xerxes, you've stated that you believe that God is Nature, or something to that effect. If that's what you believe, more power to you.
Do I ask you to provide evidence to back up your opinion? No.
Yet, I can reasonably explain what I mean by that, without the need of any absurd appeals. I don't hold to the idea of a thoughtful designer or a supreme controller of all life's details.
For example, Einstein said his god was the god of Spinoza (and I'm not saying Einstein was right, but this is a good example). Yet, as Dawkins has said such a god is really sexed-up atheism. It's romantic language that says, "What is is God." But again, no appeals to invisible gods beyond the clouds, and can be explained reasonably.
Why? Because ALL religions are merely opinions, and mine is no better than yours, and yours is no better than mine. Antagonizing each other only furthers anger, hate and aggression.
Fluffy, but the point is, those who are angered are angered because they want to contend. If I don't wish to contend, I don't read these threads. Those who read them and get angry want to contend and play the game of the war of worldviews.
We're a species that warred to be here. The universe is at war. Our bodies are at war. Right now animals are beating each other up for alpha position. Animals compete for survival. We pay money to watch alpha males fight in an octagon. We war over ideas so the strongest survive. It's evolution. We crave growth through forms of aggression. But I will say, I'm happy we're not debating over these ideas with swords and fire wood.
People will believe what they want to believe, however, stating that someone is dumb, or stupid, or ignorant because of whatever God they believe in, doesn't do anyone any good.
If someone is ready to find another path, they will, but they won't be forced into it by anyone else.
That's not always the case. Many people are won over by fiery debate. I, recently, won over a friend with my fiery arguments, and he's now an atheist. While some may prefer the soft styles, others are won with blunt and hard honest arguments.
As iron sharpens iron so man sharpens another, said the inventor of Solomon. And we evolve in ways that aren't always pretty. We grow by sparking against others and environment.
You once considered yourself a Christian, now you do not. Did someone force you to change your mind, or did you come about it by yourself?
It was a combination of other people's arguments and my own critical thinking in relation, as it is with many others.
Why must you force your opinion onto others?
No one is being forced. I'm on an internet forum typing words. Tying people to a stake and saying believe or burn, now, that's forcing!
Why do you antagonize those who don't believe as you do?
Fluffy, even if I come with sincere kindness, these arguments will be interpreted on here as aggressive. It is what it is.
It's a forum to discuss and debate and no one has to read these threads. Those who read them and get worked up want to be worked up. They lust to contend for various reasons. Only the lusting heart can be filled with the fires of aggression or sexuality.
I think people owe it to themselves to discover reality and drop beliefs that promote homophobia, child abuse, and self guilt, etc. So, I'll bring forth arguments. Some have thanked me later for helping them out of a faith that had them blinded in ignorance.
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