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[Collegekid]

I would also like to know who will be serving in positions of power under the elected official. It will inform how I were to vote.

[Tell_it_like_it_is]

Ok (Tell it like it is)  we can all tell your a correction officer.   We all know the corrections union backs Redmond.  So why don't you explain the promises that were given to you.  I agree it's a hard and dangerous job. Your crying about taking prisoners to court you know there is a reason, and you know it. You can do misdemeanors, but sworn officers do the felonies    Remember you are a corrections officer, that is a civilian employee job. You can be hired off the street with NO training.   A deputy is a sworn officer, and has been certified by the state of Michigan.  When a police officer is off duty, we are still a police officer.   A correction officer off duty is a private citizen.  A correction officer has not been to a police academy.  A correction officer only goes to correctional training, sorry it's not the same.  You complain about the deputies working in the jail, they have to.

A reserve officer is a private citizen, with almost no law enforcement training.  Monroe County has used reserve deputies for years.  Most of them never come out to work.  They have to be under the direct supervision of a sworn deputy.  They are not free the county has insurance they have to pay for.  Paying for an untrained person to do police work not cheap, or smart.  Just think of the law suit the county would have if an untrained person arrested someone because they don't know laws, or even worse.

You stated Reserves could handle traffic crashes.   What a joke, even if it's a minor one, is the reserve going to go to court and testify.  What happens when the attorney ask about their police experience (and they do all the time)  When they ask about their accident training.  Sorry like it or not you need to use sworn officers.

Bottom line If you really want to be a sworn officer instead of being a correction officer, stop crying about being a "second class citizen", and go to a police academy pass the course, and get a job as one.  By the way the current Sheriff gave a lot of correction officers the opportunity to become a sworn deputy.  But sadly only a few could cut it.  Some couldn't pass the physical test to get into the academy. 

Well Mr. Big, as your name implies you feel you are.  I am not a correctional employee.  I work across the street.  Either way if I was, it just goes to prove how you and many other deputies feel toward the corrections employees.  It must be how Mr. Malone feels too, which is why all the deputies support him.  Your comments alone show exactly what I am talking about, the great divide that currently exists.  Let me ask you Mr. Big, aside from an Undersheriff and Chief Deputy (process server), what service to the county is the sheriff mandated to provide?  The deputies don't make enough for what you do, my hat is off to you for that.  In my opinion neither do the corrections employees.  None of them make over $25/hr.  There is office staff in this building making close to that.  Same for you guys.  Why is HR making more than you?  I agree the deputies have a different job than the jailers but, not a 'better' job, or make you a higher class or more important person than them.  Mr. Malone will continue your logic, which is why he has your support.  Mr. Redmond will even up the department which is why everyone else supports him.  Mr. Malone has 5 endorsements to Mr. Redmond's 15+.  That should tell you something!

[Pax]

    Nary a one of the potential "candidates" will do anything at all to Serve and Protect the people of Monroe from out-of-control state and federal governments and it's well past time to remove all of them from suckling on the public teaties: None of the Above can always be written in by hand.

[family man]

I think you'd really be surprised (and disappointed) by how often that happens Fluffy B

That was my point, all be it in a tongue in cheek manner.

[Frenchfry]

I would also like to know who will be serving in positions of power under the elected official. It will inform how I were to vote.

Why would that matter?

Harrington and Malone said they haven't made any commitments.
Edited to add:
Harrington prefaced his response with: "contrary to rumors"

Malone said he has an idea on who he wants to fill those positions and they would come from within the current command structure.

Redmond said he didn't plan on bringing any outsiders in.
http://mpact.pegcentral.com/player.php?video=ebe57930fb61e3a1288a89b42ceb028a

[BigRedDog]

Well Mr. Big, as your name implies you feel you are.  I am not a correctional employee.  I work across the street.  Either way if I was, it just goes to prove how you and many other deputies feel toward the corrections employees.  It must be how Mr. Malone feels too, which is why all the deputies support him.  Your comments alone show exactly what I am talking about, the great divide that currently exists.  Let me ask you Mr. Big, aside from an Undersheriff and Chief Deputy (process server), what service to the county is the sheriff mandated to provide?  The deputies don't make enough for what you do, my hat is off to you for that.  In my opinion neither do the corrections employees.  None of them make over $25/hr.  There is office staff in this building making close to that.  Same for you guys.  Why is HR making more than you?  I agree the deputies have a different job than the jailers but, not a 'better' job, or make you a higher class or more important person than them. Mr. Malone will continue your logic, which is why he has your support.  Mr. Redmond will even up the department which is why everyone else supports him.  Mr. Malone has 5 endorsements to Mr. Redmond's 15+.  That should tell you something!

Using only the above logic to determine who to vote for then the general public should vote for Harrington since the "won't owe anything to anybody under him"

[Tell_it_like_it_is]

Using only the above logic to determine who to vote for then the general public should vote for Harrington since the "won't owe anything to anybody under him"

True and I see your point, but do we want our Law Enforcement treated like a game as Mr. Harrington states?  I don't.  When I call 911 I want the cops.  Once the guy is locked up, I want him secured by people who wont let him slip out.  Both jobs important, none better than the other.

[Professor H]

And this vote is about who manages both of those operations...   

Yet because it's a political and popularity contest we probably won't hear much on management experience.    Budgeting, Negotiating, and PR is the real job...

[Frenchfry]

Saw the admin here and then "poof"...the number of posts went down.

Not sure how many posts were removed or even which ones are missing.

Did anyone see any violations of the TOS?

[MrBig]

So tell it like it is  If you work across the street then everything your saying is nothing more than hearsay.  You have NO first hand experience as a correction officer, unless your not, telling it like it is.
 No one feels the corrections officers are second class, but the corrections officers that are not happy with their job.

 They were all advised what their job would be before the were hired.  Remember no one forced them to take the job as a corrections officer. In years past most the deputies were promoted from the ranks of corrections officers. See that word (Promoted) that means the deputy position was higher than corrections.
 The current sheriff did the same, but after spending money paying for their academy the ones that made it were then placed into training on the road. A number of them quit the training and went back to work in the jail, so that practice stopped.   I would like to see that opened again. 

Why is the pay of other people any of your concern?  Deputies have taken cuts in pay/benefits, because that's what the times demand.  Hey sergeants make more than deputies, so should the deputies be upset and fell like their second class?
 Remember a few years ago corrections officer's badges were different than a deputies.  After crying that second class stuff, the sheriff gave them all badges that looked liked the deputies.

It seems to me from what your saying corrections officers hare having an identity crisis.  Like a lot of companies there are job classifications, in Monroe County the deputies classification is higher than corrections.   Should the deputies feel like second class citizens because they have a sergeant, or lieutenant above them? Or should they work to achieve the higher position.
When you say Redmond "Will even up the department"  please tell everyone what he promised the correction officer to get their vote. How is he going to even it up.
So you think endorsements will make a person win.  Endorsements from a police chief in a three man department is nice, even endorsements from people out of the state is nice, but that will not win you the election.  Just one of Malone's endorsements have a membership of over 19,000 people.  That's almost like saying whom ever has the most signs out will win. 

Bottom line we will all see on Aug. 7th.

As far as who will be the undersheriff or majors I don't think we will know that until after the primary. 
I hope people vote for the person they think will be best for the citizen's of Monroe County & Sheriffs' Office, not because of promises they were given for their vote. The three all have a vision of what they want to do.

[Collegekid]

Why would that matter?

It matters a great deal. I know many of the current staff, and there are some people that I would be more comfortable with than others. So depending on who is elected and who they bring with them it could help or hurt their chances of getting my vote.

[Frenchfry]

It matters a great deal. I know many of the current staff, and there are some people that I would be more comfortable with than others. So depending on who is elected and who they bring with them it could help or hurt their chances of getting my vote.

Okay thanks.
Does that mean you feel there are some in the MCSD that shouldn't be in law enforcement?

[Professor H]

Saw the admin here and then "poof"...the number of posts went down.

Not sure how many posts were removed or even which ones are missing.

Did anyone see any violations of the TOS?

None noted hear - just friendly discourse as usual.

[BigRedDog]

It matters a great deal. I know many of the current staff, and there are some people that I would be more comfortable with than others. So depending on who is elected and who they bring with them it could help or hurt their chances of getting my vote.

I don't think it's like a president/vice-president or governor/lieutenant governor where they're running as a team...   I'm pretty sure I've seen sheriff's wait until after they actually take office to publicly name their 'team'

[Collegekid]

Okay thanks.
Does that mean you feel there are some in the MCSD that shouldn't be in law enforcement?

I don't believe I said that now did I? Just asked for some information.