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[Baby Hitler]

I REALLY hope that Jan Jay gets elected.

[Collegekid]

I don't think that you can plan on how to solve a cold case Deanna. Cold Cases require a lot of time and resources, but most importantly a bit of luck to crack.

As resources are cut, cold cases being solved will lessen down to a near zero level.

[Deanna]

I don't think that you can plan on how to solve a cold case Deanna. Cold Cases require a lot of time and resources, but most importantly a bit of luck to crack.

As resources are cut, cold cases being solved will lessen down to a near zero level.

Collegekid, absolutely without manpower it would be difficult- maybe Monroe needs to get some forensic college students involved...supply the crime and the resources and let them put in the time and investigate it?
Provide me with some free training, resources, point me in a direction and I could put in several hours a week at least, on my  dime.  I would like to think that I am not the only one that would.  Dang I would think some of the folks at the senior centers would be able to help out if they were asked even. 

[sammy]

Collegekid, absolutely without manpower it would be difficult- maybe Monroe needs to get some forensic college students involved...supply the crime and the resources and let them put in the time and investigate it?
Provide me with some free training, resources, point me in a direction and I could put in several hours a week at least, on my  dime.  I would like to think that I am not the only one that would.  Dang I would think some of the folks at the senior centers would be able to help out if they were asked even. 

Yep, we need the seniors to step up and solve all those cold cases that the cops can't solve! Did you read what you posted before you posted it?

[eriemermaid]

LOL This place makes me smile!  I love Monroe and the Monroe Evening News.

[Collegekid]

Collegekid, absolutely without manpower it would be difficult- maybe Monroe needs to get some forensic college students involved...supply the crime and the resources and let them put in the time and investigate it?
Provide me with some free training, resources, point me in a direction and I could put in several hours a week at least, on my  dime.  I would like to think that I am not the only one that would.  Dang I would think some of the folks at the senior centers would be able to help out if they were asked even. 

That's an idea that only works in a perfect world. First off untrained people, even given the equipment could not do that type of work.

Secondly, even if you got college students and gave them interns, many interns actually cause more work for supervisors. It's rare to get an intern that you don't have to supervise at least at double the rate you would a regular employee. Plus with interns you lose them roughly every 15 weeks, and they generally work 15 hours or less per week.

Not to mention that unions would never allow either of those things to happen.

So yeah, in a perfect world where the laymen is perfectly trained, no union interference in free labor (not bashing unions here.) and where interns work like full time employees, you might crack one or two cold cases a year.

Personally I wouldn't base who I'm voting on because of their plan to deal with cold cases. It makes no difference in "policing" on a day to day level.

[T-M-T]

That's an idea that only works in a perfect world. First off untrained people, even given the equipment could not do that type of work.

Secondly, even if you got college students and gave them interns, many interns actually cause more work for supervisors. It's rare to get an intern that you don't have to supervise at least at double the rate you would a regular employee. Plus with interns you lose them roughly every 15 weeks, and they generally work 15 hours or less per week.

Not to mention that unions would never allow either of those things to happen.

So yeah, in a perfect world where the laymen is perfectly trained, no union interference in free labor (not bashing unions here.) and where interns work like full time employees, you might crack one or two cold cases a year.

Good points.

I’m also sure a defense attorney would love to hear that amateurs worked on the case against his/her client.

Simply being obsessed with missing people won’t do much for you in the Voir Dire process.

[Frenchfry]

Well it appears at least one candidate is promising the moon with his plan to add 5 more Deputies, add 3 more narcotic k-9 units and create his own drug division.

Now consider that OMNI was Multi-jurisdictional...comprised of various departments....I doubt the funding was shouldered entirely by Monroe County.

Don't fall for the fear tactic being promoted by these anti-drug zealots....Monroe County has NOT been overtaken with drugs....and building up such a narrow focused militarized force would be a huge waste of resources that could be better utilized elsewhere.

Interesting tidbit, the government can seize and sell property of people not judged guilty of any crime.

Yep, Asset Forfeiture is legal theft.

For the record, I personally abhor drugs but the drug war has been a failure for everyone except the private prison industry.

[jbs49238]

LOL!!!  The War on Drugs is a travesty because of the way it is carried out NOT because drugs are not a problem.

Users need treatment and rehabilitation, dealers NEED to go to jail. 

The reason LE cannot get affectively into the places it needs to (IMO) is that they cannot turn a blind eye to a violation of the law (kinda like when they don't just give you a ride home for driving drunk) and there is SO MUCH at street level and so many are addicted and carrying small amounts it has created SO MANY LEVELS of insulation between what LE can access and the real movers of the product.

LE needs better tools to cut through to the producers and wholesale level suppliers.  You are right when you say the current war is a failure, but you are right for the wrong reasons.

[Frenchfry]

LOL!!!  The War on Drugs is a travesty because of the way it is carried out NOT because drugs are not a problem.

Users need treatment and rehabilitation, dealers NEED to go to jail. 

The reason LE cannot get affectively into the places it needs to (IMO) is that they cannot turn a blind eye to a violation of the law (kinda like when they don't just give you a ride home for driving drunk) and there is SO MUCH at street level and so many are addicted and carrying small amounts it has created SO MANY LEVELS of insulation between what LE can access and the real movers of the product.

LE needs better tools to cut through to the producers and wholesale level suppliers.  You are right when you say the current war is a failure, but you are right for the wrong reasons.

Well let's look beyond your impulse to find something to disagree about and ask specifically, what "reasons" are you disagreeing with?

Please explain how you know so much about street level drug use.

I personally feel too many low level users that are put through the ringer unnecessarily and the prison system is bulging with those non-violent offenders.

The sale and seizure of property without being convicted is commonplace.

To reiterate, a narrow-focused militarized drug team would be a waste of money.

Have to go. I'll revisit when I can.

[Professor H]

I agree with Fry ...   
Shocking I'm sure to many 

JBS also is correct that the LE efforts are unable or unwilling to follow the $$ to the top, and too many low level people are put in the system because of this policy.   Apparently they only do that in the movies 

 

[Pax]

     

     With all the gum-flapping and literature from your "candidates" regarding their personal Wars on Drugs! I ask, again, what any of them plan to do to deter your federal government from supplying and transporting said "illegal" substances into and around the county?  The morons on the bottom of that particular food-chain are the usual targets but the big drug-runners are ignored as being untouchable.  wth?  If your "sheriff" is going to "enforce laws" certainly going after the biggest drug dealer in the world operating within his supposed "jurisdiction" should be a larger priority than the stoner with a roach or two in his pocket:

Head of DEA Says He Intercepted CIA Cocaine Shipments<- link
Did Mexican Official Blow Lid Off CIA-Managed Drug Trade?<- link

[eriemermaid]

Oh my!  I agree with Frenchfry also!  See what happens when you SAY something instead of just the copy and paste?   

[Collegekid]

Much of the reason I have very much enjoyed this thread Erie.

[Deanna]

Yep, we need the seniors to step up and solve all those cold cases that the cops can't solve! Did you read what you posted before you posted it?

lol it sounded right in my head, but going back and rereading it sounds off for sure.  I was trying to imply that their may be some jobs that could be offered for senior volunteers and free up some officers to get them on the streets where they can do more good. 
T-M-T- I am not suggesting taking jobs away from law enforcement by no means-they have had too many cuts already in my opinion. I am suggesting volunteers to work with them.   

I also wouldn't expect anyone to base their vote primarily on cold cases either, nor would I expect them to base their votes primarily on the drug issues.

"Simply being obsessed with missing people won’t do much for you in the Voir Dire process"
And what does juror selection have to do with volunteeers gathering information?  I also am not sure why it is that when people are bringing attention to missing persons cases it's an obsession but when people rant and rave and carry on about numerous other topics, obsession doesn't get mentioned.