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« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2012, 09:44:36 PM »

LOL...the original complaint was about being scratched by a jumping dog and yet the resident gun dealer has now changed the narrative into looking at the snarling, foaming mouth of a strange dog.

Creating fear to increase sales doesn't seem quite right....but LW is doing it.

Not sure if the false bravado is the result of those strong smelling sewer gases or perhaps the tough guy/hero image plays into the gun sales game.

Which brings the saving dozens of lives statement into focus....missing is the loss of innocent lives.

Thank you for remaining civil. Much more enjoyable conversation. :0)

Just curious, tho.... As far as I know, you are a crop farmer, an electrician, and a business owner. Where does all the death and killing happen?

Maybe I'll learn to do my own wiring!! lol (just a joke).
To hear him tell it, he's not just any old electrician......he's a MASTER electrician.
And let's clarify the business owner part....he has a firing range....and sells guns.
Unless his resume says hitman....replacing "seen" with "heard" seems more likely since he hasn't served in the military nor in LE.
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« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2012, 10:01:32 PM »

LOL...the original complaint was about being scratched by a jumping dog and yet the resident gun dealer has now changed the narrative into looking at the snarling, foaming mouth of a strange dog.

Creating fear to increase sales doesn't seem quite right....but LW is doing it.

Not sure if the false bravado is the result of those strong smelling sewer gases or perhaps the tough guy/hero image plays into the gun sales game.

Which brings the saving dozens of lives statement into focus....missing is the loss of innocent lives.
To hear him tell it, he's not just any old electrician......he's a MASTER electrician.
And let's clarify the business owner part....he has a firing range....and sells guns.
Unless his resume says hitman....replacing "seen" with "heard" seems more likely since he hasn't served in the military nor in LE.
OK, Harry, are you ready to PROVE he's NOT a  master electrician; I sorta doubt it!
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« Reply #32 on: August 08, 2012, 10:24:54 PM »

Disagree with Live if ya want, but questioning his work isn't a good thing.  Yes, he owns a gun range and sells guns.  That does give him a different perspective than most.  He is an electrician, master or not, and a farmer.  I give him credit for a great work ethic and entrepreneurship, even if I disagree with his politics.
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« Reply #33 on: August 08, 2012, 10:44:14 PM »

OK, Harry, are you ready to PROVE he's NOT a  master electrician; I sorta doubt it!
Well he says he's a MASTER electrician so I'll just take his word for it.

Not sure why just calling himself an electrician isn't good enough.

Disagree with Live if ya want, but questioning his work isn't a good thing.  Yes, he owns a gun range and sells guns.  That does give him a different perspective than most.  He is an electrician, master or not, and a farmer.  I give him credit for a great work ethic and entrepreneurship, even if I disagree with his politics.
What are you blabbering about?

I merely noted he twisted a dog story as well as his hyped up bravado and reasoned the purpose may be to boost his gun sales.

But you can continue with your centrist charade all you want.
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« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2012, 10:48:35 PM »

Write it down and underline it! Fry called Duck a centrist. How far left is "the fry"?
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« Reply #35 on: August 08, 2012, 11:01:56 PM »

Write it down and underline it! Fry called Duck a centrist. How far left is "the fry"?
Not the first time...try to pay attention. I wouldn't say left....progressive perhaps but not left.
I've been quite vocal on MT...so asking which way I lean seems so unnecessary.
Some people seem to have something to prove on MT....personally I don't give a rats behind what any of you people think.
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« Reply #36 on: August 09, 2012, 07:47:46 AM »

Just curious, tho.... As far as I know, you are a crop farmer, an electrician, and a business owner. Where does all the death and killing happen?


One of my businesses is a gun shop and shooting range.  I sell thousands of guns every year.  I deal with a wide variety of law enforcement agencies, as well as individuals.  I have been involved in court cases, and countless discussions and investigations, where a firearm was used, in one way or another.  It goes with the territory.  Listening to a woman tell me that her gun saved her from being robbed, raped or killed makes me feel good.  I have also been involved with criminal investigations where a gun was used.  No, it's not always pretty, but the good outweighs the bad, by far, from what I've seen.  That's what I meant by my comment.


LOL...the original complaint was about being scratched by a jumping dog and yet the resident gun dealer has now changed the narrative into looking at the snarling, foaming mouth of a strange dog.

Creating fear to increase sales doesn't seem quite right....but LW is doing it.

Not sure if the false bravado is the result of those strong smelling sewer gases or perhaps the tough guy/hero image plays into the gun sales game.

Which brings the saving dozens of lives statement into focus....missing is the loss of innocent lives.
To hear him tell it, he's not just any old electrician......he's a MASTER electrician.
And let's clarify the business owner part....he has a firing range....and sells guns.
Unless his resume says hitman....replacing "seen" with "heard" seems more likely since he hasn't served in the military nor in LE.

I'm not going to bother responding to each and every one of your stupid comments, Frenchie.  They are not worth my time.  But it sounds to me like you're jealous.  I am proud of my accomplishments.  And NO, Obama had nothing to do with my feathers in my cap.  Hard work, and a drive to better myself is what made it happen.  I know it goes against your lefty way of life, but if you work hard, you can accomplish things that would make YOU proud of yourself, too.  Try it sometime.

Oh, I will say this, Skippy, I have mentioned that I am a Master Electrician for a reason.  It differentiates between a Journeyman Electrician, or an Apprentice Electrician.  There are differences, you know.  Google it.  Think you can handle that?  8*
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« Reply #37 on: August 09, 2012, 08:18:33 AM »

He already shoots neighborhood cats by his own admission. I don't think he needs any additional incentive to kill.

If you are talking about me and my previous posts, I have NEVER said I shoot neigborhood cats  I do not even own a gun  You show me where I have said I shoot them
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« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2012, 09:17:24 AM »

Live, like a man once said . . . "You can't fix stupid".  Don't bother trying. 

Like you, my Dad was a MASTER Plumber, and not only that . . . he was a darn good one too!   ;D ;D ;D



Maybe we should award this guy the MT MASTER Annoyance Award.    ;D ;D




Back on topic:

Attacking dogs are frightening.  They behave in a way that (by nature) stuns its prey and goes very bad very quickly.   

A calm discussion about how one would handle it is easy.  Getting through the ordeal is quite another. 

In other words, intentions are sincere, but talk is cheap.



I appreciate what you do Live.  And I believe you're not in it for the profit (although you are a businessman, so that's not a crime either) 

But most of all, you're not forcing your services on anyone, so what's the freakin' big deal? 

Hey Live . . . . maybe we can start calling you Sensai.   ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
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« Reply #39 on: August 09, 2012, 09:50:15 AM »

Hmmm... I don't consider attacking dogs frightening.  If you can control your emotions and irrational fear then you can disarm nearly any dog, unless that dog is specifically told by it's master to attack you.
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« Reply #40 on: August 09, 2012, 10:00:54 AM »

Hmmmmm........ Sounds like someone has been watching Cesar Milan.   ;D ;D ;D

You must have missed the episode where even HE says dogs can be dangerous and always taken seriously.  Even HE says there are people who do not have the "energy" to handle an unstable dog.  People cannot control "Fight or Flight".  It is the sympathetic part of us and dogs can sense it.  That's nature. 


But, hey . . . . if you have your emotions in check to handle an attacking dog . . . then more power to ya.   Seriously. 

But you can't ever expect to think your comment "I don't consider attacking dogs frightening" to be taken seriously by many.


JMO of course.
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« Reply #41 on: August 09, 2012, 10:55:20 AM »

Controlling the fight or flight is definitely a learned behavior.  You have to train youself in order to remain calm.  There's no doubt about that.  I'll admit it is difficult to do sometimes, but theres no reason a person can't learn to control it. 

Yes an attacking dog can be a bit intimidating, but they are predictable.  It's actually quite easy to disable an attacking dog with your bare hands if you remain calm and can predict the animals next move, which will be going for the kill or an attempt to disable you.
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« Reply #42 on: August 09, 2012, 11:18:19 AM »

If you are talking about me and my previous posts, I have NEVER said I shoot neigborhood cats  I do not even own a gun  You show me where I have said I shoot them
After I posted this, I did go back, and you're right, you've never said 'shoot.' I started to edit my post, but didn't. I'm glad to know you don't shoot cats, but you do dispatch them if they walk on your car, or that's what I took you to mean by "take care of the problem" and other references. That must leave poisoning--insanely cruel--because I didn't read "I talk to the owner and we work it out" in any of your previous posts. You also mentioned letting your dogs attack and kill cats, too. 

Yes, I have a problem with pet killers.
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« Reply #43 on: August 09, 2012, 12:03:17 PM »

Based upon the original poster's topic, I thought this was going to be a discussion of Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

Guess I was wrong.  :-(
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« Reply #44 on: August 09, 2012, 02:24:51 PM »


Not sure why just calling himself an electrician isn't good enough.

The Master Electrician supervises and is responsible for all other Electricians working on any construction/installation project. Only the Master Electrician can pull the permits with the electrical authority, and can only be registered with one electrical contracting company at any one time.
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