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[ducksoup]

I think one thing hurting Romney is the release of taxes issue.  It still isn't going away.  I do not think he did anything illegal and would be shocked if that were the case.  I do think that if people saw how and how much was reduced it would be bad for the super wealthy in general.  I think in this case he is protecting a class and not himself.  That doesn't mean that people aren't noticing it.

It is like his 100 million dollar IRA.  I think he invested his own stock and called it valueless and the when it sold within the IRA it then had value.  Just a guess. 

[Baggins]

I think in this case he is protecting a class and not himself.

Bingo, give that man a cigar...!

[Monique]

Ah, another thread about Frenchfry. Good stuff.

Normal Joe posted a bunch of crap. That's where the similarity ends. He was unable to formulate and articulate any kind of original thought. FF definitely has that capacity, but he chooses to express himself by using articles and videos from people he considers subject matter experts.

I don't see why people get so riled simply by the way one person posts.

[ducksoup]

Ah, another thread about Frenchfry. Good stuff.

Normal Joe posted a bunch of crap. That's where the similarity ends. He was unable to formulate and articulate any kind of original thought. FF definitely has that capacity, but he chooses to express himself by using articles and videos from people he considers subject matter experts.

I don't see why people get so riled simply by the way one person posts.

Agree and disagree... I think...  I have been told that I write too long to bother to read.  I dislike the style of some posters.  I think everyone has the right to say what they want as long as it fits within the operational TOS rather than the written one that does not usually apply.

Flaming is a violation of TOS and it is so frequent and sometimes so bad I wish it would die down, but it doesn't.  And yes, FF is just one of that bunch. 

[Flanders]

Oh, I don't know.

Hmm.. too easy.  nevermind.

I wonder about Him claiming that Obama is being negative when he is doing the same.  Seems like crying to me.

Really? I'd like to think you think these things out before posting, but can you really say Romney has been as negative as Obama?

Let's see here, and mind you we're talking about the highest level of campaigns, not some local county whatever, and here's what the Obama camp has fired at Romney...so far.

Romney is a...

Felon.

Murderer.

Tax Cheat.

Slave Master.

Oh please do respond with equivalent examples of negativity coming from the R's, as to not discredit yourself completely.

[ducksoup]

Hmm.. too easy.  nevermind.

Really? I'd like to think you think these things out before posting, but can you really say Romney has been as negative as Obama?

Let's see here, and mind you we're talking about the highest level of campaigns, not some local county whatever, and here's what the Obama camp has fired at Romney...so far.

Romney is a...

Felon.

Murderer.

Tax Cheat.

Slave Master.

Oh please do respond with equivalent examples of negativity coming from the R's, as to not discredit yourself completely.

There ya go, now do a copy paste and I won't be able to tell you from FF.

I love it when people have such devastating blinders and cannot see reality. 

Yep, Romney is as innocent as a new born baby just like every tea radical knows.  He doesn't flip-flop either.

[ducksoup]

Hmm.. too easy.  nevermind.

Really? I'd like to think you think these things out before posting, but can you really say Romney has been as negative as Obama?

Let's see here, and mind you we're talking about the highest level of campaigns, not some local county whatever, and here's what the Obama camp has fired at Romney...so far.

Romney is a...

Felon.

Murderer.

Tax Cheat.

Slave Master.

Oh please do respond with equivalent examples of negativity coming from the R's, as to not discredit yourself completely.

Lying about coal, lying about hatred, lying about energy, lying about welfare, lying about religion, TREASON, Hating.

Oh, and if you want to include all of the outside groups that are not controlled by Romney AS YOU DID then the list gets too long.

[Flanders]

Outside groups? Fair enough, I'll eliminate "murderer" from that list.  Now again, I ask, please make the argument. 

One last chance for redemption duck.....

[ducksoup]

Outside groups? Fair enough, I'll eliminate "murderer" from that list.  Now again, I ask, please make the argument. 

One last chance for redemption duck.....

Redemption at what Flanders.  That you are a flamer just like FF?  You would not admit that Romney said something negative even with his own words in person.  I have nothing to redeem.  Romney is using negative advertising.  You cannot accept that as truth, but that doesn't make it a non truth, just something you refuse to see. 

Why is questioning two legal documents saying opposite things when only one can be true and it would seem to make one or the other a felony? 

Slave Master LOL you are funny.

Saying that insiders have said he paid no taxes is not calling him a tax cheat.  No one said he did it illegally, and that makes it worse.

But, yeah, they were all done to be negative, and I feel sad for you that you can't get your head out from under the sand.


I remember the first political ad against Obama way back.  It was Romney using an Obama speech about can't win because of economy, except the LIE was that he was quoting McCain and they were not his words as Romney purported.  That set the tone that it was going to be negative all the way. And it is, even if you are blind.

[ducksoup]

Outside groups? Fair enough, I'll eliminate "murderer" from that list.  Now again, I ask, please make the argument. 

One last chance for redemption duck.....

Redemption for what?  I said they both ere negative and you claim only Obama is.  Seems you are the one that should be doing the begging.

[ducksoup]

How about the LIE that Obama "gutted Medicare" when the Romney and the Ryan plan includes the exact same cuts but then goes further to eliminate Medicare and replace it with fixed payment vouchers that will not pay for healthcare and as healthcare costs increase then that fixed voucher would pay even less.  But, of course Romney and Ryan call eliminating Medicare "fixing it".

[Flanders]

So now somehow I'm FF?

Sorry, but just because I'm pointing out how miserably ignorant you are on the subject does not equate me with someone who regurgitates TYT clips 24/7.

But let's get back on subject as I'm not done with you yet.

NEVER have I said Romney wasn't going negative, but thanks for playing.

I'm saying that the Obama camp has gone to the extreme.  Accusing a presidential candidate of committing a felony and making slave master analogies to a 50% black crowd comes nowhere close to..... ohhhh calling someone a liar.

Think duck.. think.

[Forsythia]

What about all the republicans lying about the "death panels" that would come from Obamacare?  What about all the lies about Mr. Obama not being a citizen?  What about the ads lying about the accomplishments made in creating new jobs?  I could go on and on.  All the Democrats are doing is taking a page out of Carl Roves book.  It sucks when the shoes on the other foot, doesn't it?

[Flanders]

Sorry but Duck specifically excluded "outside" groups in this debate.  Unless you can cite Romney's camp using one of those accusations except the new jobs one, then i'm all ears.

[Forsythia]

Sorry but Duck specifically excluded "outside" groups in this debate.  Unless you can cite Romney's camp using one of those accusations except the new jobs one, then i'm all ears.

Oh ok, so previous elections don't count then either?