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[ducksoup]

That's because he knows, just as everyone else knows, that it's his turn to be the Designated Loser just like McInsane, Gore, Dole and so many others before him.  Only a really good actor worthy of an Oscar award could act like a winner when he knows he's not...

Interesting idea.  I think that the ego of anyone running at that level would not let them see reality, if the reality is that he will lose that is.

[ducksoup]

Well, since i am not asking right or something.  Here is what I came up with positive for Ryan.  He is not Palin.  By that I mean he is known enough that he isn't going to explode.  He seems to be competent enough speaker.

[LetsGoWings]

Oh, I don't know.

I wonder about Him claiming that Obama is being negative when he is doing the same.  Seems like crying to me.

I really wonder a lot about the Ryan pick.  He is pretty heavily tied to his budget plan to change Medicare to a voucher program which really is "kill it" and tax cuts for the rich on the backs of the working people.  He wants SS privatized too.  I see them as negatives and not positives. 

I thought maybe some from the right would say why they thought he was a good pick.  Maybe some are in favor of the give tax cuts to the extreme wealthy and make the working people pay for it and think it is a vote getter. 

I wonder about the newest ad campaign of "Obama cut 7** billion or million can't remember, from Medicare.  Cuts that Obama made that are in the Ryan budget.  aside from the cuts do not and cannot reduce benefits.  I understand the method, it is cut at a strength.  I don't think it is going to work though.  We shall see.

Long ago, before the primaries I said I thought that the R's would nominate a losing candidate because they like getting what they want from Obama while still demonizing him, which they do.  I wonder to myself if Romney is filling that.  It seems almost ridiculous that the polls could be so close with the economy as it is.  Any other time there has been a bad economy like this it is a loser for the incumbent.  Polls for months have shown Obama with a slim lead and has been pretty constant.  The reason can't be because people like Obama so much, but dislike the alternative more.  In that I don't think it is Romney, but the Republican/Tea party radicalness.  Even people that don't pay much attention seem to know how divisiveness the R's have been. 

My wife said a group of coworker women were talking and said that the anti women things that the R's have done and said means they won't vote for Romney.  It surprised me.  I didn't think the women's issue was so big anymore.  It was not  a small group and seemed to be unanimous. 

Anyway, I guess I was hoping there were some R's wanting Ryan on the ticket and say why.

I wish I could help you with the last sentence DS, but I can't because I am not a huge fan of Ryan. I was hoping Ryan would pick a nice moderate candidate who has a proven history of being able to work with the Democrats, but that would be tough to find. The positive is, he is a million times better than Palin, although I think a dog might be able to put together more intelligent thoughts than her.

I think, like you mentioned, Romney will be hurt because of the Tea party and extreme right, simply because of their antics.

[ducksoup]

I wish I could help you with the last sentence DS, but I can't because I am not a huge fan of Ryan. I was hoping Ryan would pick a nice moderate candidate who has a proven history of being able to work with the Democrats, but that would be tough to find. The positive is, he is a million times better than Palin, although I think a dog might be able to put together more intelligent thoughts than her.

I think, like you mentioned, Romney will be hurt because of the Tea party and extreme right, simply because of their antics.

In looking at some right wing sites I was seeing things like "he is like the paperboy you want your daughter to date" (no kidding) and "he knows the budget" and "he can make liberals look stupid as they are in a debate" 

I can't rate a guys looks or the age discrepancy.  I can't rate if he knows the budget.  He has a proposal and i heavily disagree with that proposal, but that doesn't let me know if he actually does know the budget.  I have to give him a maybe.  The last at least I said better, without partisan distaste.

I am getting that the best, for what I see, is just that he isn't Palin. 

Please don't take me wrong peoples.  I really DO want your opinions, and thanks for yours LGW.

[LetsGoWings]

In looking at some right wing sites I was seeing things like "he is like the paperboy you want your daughter to date" (no kidding) and "he knows the budget" and "he can make liberals look stupid as they are in a debate" 

I can't rate a guys looks or the age discrepancy.  I can't rate if he knows the budget.  He has a proposal and i heavily disagree with that proposal, but that doesn't let me know if he actually does know the budget.  I have to give him a maybe.  The last at least I said better, without partisan distaste.

I am getting that the best, for what I see, is just that he isn't Palin. 

Please don't take me wrong peoples.  I really DO want your opinions, and thanks for yours LGW.

I think a major plus for him is it potentially reduces the amount of votes going to the third parties, but that does not really have much to do with his policies.

I guess I could see why people would think he might look good, not the greatest judge at looks though. I am not a huge fan of his budget or his tax plans

I know he does not have much experience, but I would have liked to see someone like Scott Brown get the nod, because America needs congress working together instead of essentially taking the exact opposite side of what seems to be every single issue that comes up.

[marilyn.monroe]

Let's see; Mexico has a lot of oil, and probably more potentially. Canada has lots of oil, and we know lots of potential. We have lots of oil, and we know, lots of potential. VIOLA, maybe North America COULD be independent of Middle Eastern oil by eight years from now. Do you have statistics that say otherwise? Please don't use estimates from the present administration.

We could be free from mideast oil today for that matter. Yes, Mexico and Canada do have a lot of oil, so why do they need to be "free" from foreign suppliers?

[LessGovernment]

You know it's going to be Romney or Obama.  Does your anti-Romney/Ryan stance mean you support Obama directly or are you going to support Obama by voting for a third party candidate?

T-M-T; for the record, "our" message has been consistent - we are sick of the false choices...one day perhaps, you will get sick of it too when it lands on your doorstep and FORCES you to do something you don't want to do - but HAVE TO for survival.

I could have stayed on welfare in Michigan, I could have "gamed" the system; give me credit for going somewhere else and getting 3 jobs!

Sad truth is, the politicians are still accelerating our demise to pure socialism and destroying this nation's work ethic...Ron Paul is no Superman...he is trustworthy, and the LEAST of all the evils if you want to insist he too is a lying politician - too bad the majority American electorate is too conditioned to take the government handouts, and too consumed with their own self-interests to know it cannot mathematically be sustained.

Spit on our founders, mock my faith all you want.  What's right is right, and what's wrong is wrong.  This Ron Paul "revolution" is all about selfishness(government handouts/gaming the system) versus liberty-for-all and punishment of evil-doers which generates and perpatuates lasting prosperity...

Obama versus Romney is a JOKE, and mere theater to distract the masses...and you know we're right...you're not deluded, you're guarding your castle too and playing the game in order to spoil whatever you can to your turn; well, I'm done ignoring the problem, and the consequences of ignoring it - for our posterity's sake.

That's the TRUE cost of citizenship!

(...and I just love it when we outsmart them, too!)

http://www.dailypaul.com/249333/paulbot-owns-romneyryancom

[LessGovernment]

Here's another GEM!

"Last week, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, the presumptive Republican nominee for president, blasted Obama for borrowing more than one trillion dollars in just the past year. He must have forgotten to look at the voting record of his designated running mate, Wisconsin Congressman Paul Ryan."

[sammy]

Less, you do know that Ron Paul will not be the next President, do you not? Have you read Don Quixote?

[jbs49238]

Less, you do know that Ron Paul will not be the next President, do you not? Have you read Don Quixote?

Nut uh... he has all the super secret squirrel delegates he needs to take down the establishment AND the convention in Tampa!  Just wait!!! JUST YOU FRIGGIN WAIT!!!

Wow, I slipped off into some strange dimension there for a minute.  Glad I made it back safely!

[SMASH]

Nut uh... he has all the super secret squirrel delegates he needs to take down the establishment AND the convention in Tampa!  Just wait!!! JUST YOU FRIGGIN WAIT!!!

Wow, I slipped off into some strange dimension there for a minute.  Glad I made it back safely!

No, we'll just see more of this...

terror terror terror - oops!



OBEY

[jbs49238]

That is a clever video of words inserted in places where they clearly are saying something else.

You do that whole OBEY thing too... for the same puppet master.  But please go ahead and tell us all how you are an independant thinker not beholden to the GOP elite.  The elite? No!  Because you are in the minority within your party, but the GOP?  Hellyeah you OBEY, all the way to the booth.

Mitt Romney thanks you for the impending support you will give him right after Ron Paul tells you to!

[Professor H]

Well, since i am not asking right or something.  Here is what I came up with positive for Ryan.  He is not Palin.  By that I mean he is known enough that he isn't going to explode.  He seems to be competent enough speaker.

Compared to his counterpart - Biden,  He's more than competent.

 

[Frenchfry]

Paul Ryan And Ayn Rand
"The reason I got involved in public service, by and large, if I had to credit one thinker, one person, it would be Ayn Rand ." That's freshly minted GOP vice-presidential candidate Paul Ryan talking -- statements he would eventually recant -- at a party celebrating what would have been the prolific author's 100th birthday...".

Paul Ryan And Ayn Rand


"Paul Ryan, the budget plan-toting and P90Xing representative from Wisconsin, was recently chosen by Mitt Romney as his running mate on the Republican ticket, yet a hatred for big government and love of washboard abs aren't the only things he feels strongly about. Ryan has had a life-long fascination and appreciation of Ayn Rand, author of philosophical novels like "The Fountainhead" and "Atlas Shrugged." Recently, as Ryan has risen in national prominence, he's taken to distancing himself from the libertarian hero; despite that, his current position is in fierce contradiction with fairly recent statements of praise for the Russian-born author...".

Paul Ryan Pretends Ayn Rand Not His Idol

WikiLeaks' Paul Ryan revelations
The race for the White House got a little more interesting as
Wisconsin congressman Paul Ryan got the coveted VP slot alongside Mitt
Romney. Ryan known for his charismatic conservatism has a reputation
for cutting domestic spending to the bone, but what if that wasn't
quite the case? Moreover the documents released by the Wikileaks gave
more of an insight on the man - would be VP and his supposed hawkish
monetary policy. RT's producer Sam Knight had his say on that.

WikiLeaks' Paul Ryan revelations

[Frenchfry]

"Lost in the back and forth between the Obama and Romney campaigns over who's the real Medicare cutter is a critical difference between visions: President Obama's plan is to make the program solvent by reducing payments to health care providers, while Rep. Paul Ryan achieves his savings by transforming Medicare into a voucher-like system...".

Did Obama Cut Medicare?


Cuss warning for this:
GOP Scared Romney/Ryan Could Lose Big
"We noted yesterday that Mitt Romney's selection of Rep. Paul Ryan as his vice-presidential nominee could spell trouble down the ballot, and now Politico and the Hill report today that Republican strategists are privately fretting about the choice...".*

GOP Scared Romney/Ryan Could Lose Big