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Precedent undermines Romney's credibility on tax assurances
« Reply #450 on: August 20, 2012, 02:06:35 AM »

Precedent undermines Romney's credibility on tax assurances
Mitt Romney's history of making excuses to keep his tax returns private to avoid exposing his lie, and compares the circumstances to Romney's latest excuses and the Obama campaign's concessions to those excuses if Romney will reveal five years of tax returns.
Rachel Maddow - Precedent undermines Romney's credibility on tax assurances
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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #451 on: August 20, 2012, 07:27:21 AM »

As an example of the fulfillment of the words of Ron Paul in the above video take a look at this one.

Retired Marine Brandon Raub Arrested For Facebook Posts Criticizing The Government

Wow... great video.  Illegal arrest?  Didn't have his rights read to him?  Got arrested ONLY because he was talking about government in a bad light on facebook?  Says who?  The only proof you have that any of this is actually true is Pee Wee Herman telling you so.

But you bought right in... hook, line, and sinker.  "Gummit bad, just look at this 40 second video clip as proof".

How can you tell someone is lying to you on YouTube?  They have to stop and think about what lie to tell.  That video is full of those instances.  You cannot really be this gullible can you?
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Romney pushes on with discredited welfare attacks
« Reply #453 on: August 22, 2012, 10:43:02 AM »

MIDLAND, Texas (AP) - Mitt Romney claims he's got a winner with his criticism that President Barack Obama is giving welfare recipients a free ride. Never mind that aspects of his argument against the Democrat are factually inaccurate.

Those flaws aside, Romney's team is pressing on with the charge that the president ended a provision requiring welfare recipients to work. Romney aides insist the argument is helping them gain ground with middle-class voters anxious about the economy and independents who see Obama's welfare changes as an indication that he is a typical liberal, not a moderate. But the campaign offers little evidence to back up those assertions.

Obama's team, in turn, says Romney's welfare charges are dishonest. Numerous independent fact-checkers, including The Associated Press, have determined that Romney and his surrogates are distorting the facts.

"Everybody who's looked at this says what Gov. Romney's saying is absolutely wrong," Obama said Monday. "They can run the campaign they want, but the truth of the matter is you can't just make stuff up."

But that criticism has done little to persuade Romney and his aides to abandon the welfare issue or even tweak its assertions.

The White House says the waivers Obama approved for states last month would only allow them to drop the work requirement if they can accomplish the same goals using different methods, a move Obama aides said was done at the request of both Republican and Democratic governors.

Romney's welfare push comes with risk for the presumptive GOP nominee. Focusing too heavily on welfare, which had barely registered as a campaign issue before Romney began pushing it, could turn off voters who want to hear the candidates offer specific prescriptions for job growth.

It could open Romney up to criticism that he is injecting race into the campaign and seeking to boost support among white, working-class voters by charging that the nation's first black president is offering a free pass to recipients of a program stereotypically associated with poor African-Americans.

And Romney runs the risk of denting his credibility with voters by peddling an argument that has been widely debunked.


http://apnews.myway.com/article/20120822/DA0Q8BU80.html


The man wants nothing more than the notoriety of being president, and will lie his way to get it...He doesn't give a crap about the people or the country, it will just be another notch in his belt he can boast about to his uber rich friends...
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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #454 on: August 22, 2012, 11:35:29 AM »


The man wants nothing more than the notoriety of being president, and will lie his way to get it...He doesn't give a crap about the people or the country, it will just be another notch in his belt he can boast about to his uber rich friends...
I agree.
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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #455 on: August 22, 2012, 11:42:06 AM »

No intentions of being combative, but what do you suspect Obama's motivation to be President is?

They are both more interested in party line politics, negative political rhetoric, furthering their own personal careers, and neither offering up solutions but rather attack why each of their plans won't work!

Both major parties are gridlocked, and is reflected in congressional ratings.  It starts at the top in my opinion.

But wait.....perhaps Obama and Romney neither are the "top"!
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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #456 on: August 22, 2012, 11:52:20 AM »

No intentions of being combative, but what do you suspect Obama's motivation to be President is?

They are both more interested in party line politics, negative political rhetoric, furthering their own personal careers, and neither offering up solutions but rather attack why each of their plans won't work!

Both major parties are gridlocked, and is reflected in congressional ratings.  It starts at the top in my opinion.

But wait.....perhaps Obama and Romney neither are the "top"!
I find it difficult to say that Obama hasn't offered up any solutions, but rather, he hasn't offered up any solutions that have been able to be passed through congress.

Which has been the plan of the Republicans all along. Doesn't matter if his plans are good for the country, but rather, what damage will it do to the Republican party.
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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #457 on: August 22, 2012, 12:04:46 PM »

Yup...it proves my point of gridlock FB.  Obama does have a few good ideas, no doubt.  Right now neither party is debating solutions as they are too busy twisting each others words along with their respective super PAC's.  I DESPISE the commercials each are running and am looking forward to the political campaign season ending, and watching the current status quo continue for the next 4 years.

Time for a third party....but I know it will never happen. 

That being the case.....I guess this is what we have to get used to.
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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #458 on: August 22, 2012, 02:44:36 PM »

Yup...it proves my point of gridlock FB.  Obama does have a few good ideas, no doubt. 
You lost me.

So you almost voted for Obama in 08, and state that he has a few good ideas, but you won't vote for him, because the Congress is in gridlock, and will instead vote for some third party candidate.

I am guessing because Obama caused the gridlock?
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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #459 on: August 22, 2012, 03:01:37 PM »

Quite simple actually, I think he is part of the gridlock.  Can't find where I said he caused it.

I almost voted for him because I thought he could be an agent of change as he so rigorously promoted himself as during the campaign.  Still many lobbyist in Washington last time I looked.  Still have troops in Afghanistan....the kind of things that perhaps he could have made changes on but chose not to.  I think if I recall he even said he was unifier. 
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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #460 on: August 22, 2012, 03:21:13 PM »

Quite simple actually, I think he is part of the gridlock.  Can't find where I said he caused it.

I almost voted for him because I thought he could be an agent of change as he so rigorously promoted himself as during the campaign.  Still many lobbyist in Washington last time I looked.  Still have troops in Afghanistan....the kind of things that perhaps he could have made changes on but chose not to.  I think if I recall he even said he was unifier.
Yes, it probably was naive of him to think that some people are capable of compromise, when it has become quite evident that that is not the case.

Kind of hard for him to get rid of the lobbyists since the Supreme Court have decided that corporations are people. But hey, if you have any ideas on how to get lobbyists out of Washington, I'm sure everyone is all ears on that one.

Except for people with money.

And I believe that the troops are leaving Afghanistan, while probably not on a time table that many would prefer.
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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #461 on: August 22, 2012, 04:11:05 PM »

I still love ya FB, it's ok if we don't share the same opinion of Obama.

As you indicate, the office of the Presidency is basically powerless.

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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #462 on: August 23, 2012, 12:39:08 AM »



Kind of hard for him to get rid of the lobbyists since the Supreme Court have decided that corporations are people.


Winner for best point made today.
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Re: Romney pushes on with discredited welfare attacks
« Reply #463 on: August 23, 2012, 01:19:32 AM »

He doesn't give a crap about the people or the country.

And BHO has done so much for the people of this country.
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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #464 on: August 23, 2012, 04:36:31 AM »

BHO is a stepping stone for the DNC to see how far left they can take the electorate.

Mitt is a litnus test for the RNC to see if America will still elect a rich white guy.

Two amazingly wonderful choices the corporate politicians have handed us.  My hope... 10% digs deep, vets ALL the choices on their own, and votes for someone other than what the corporate monopoly has handed us.  10% would be a HUGE step.
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