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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #570 on: August 28, 2012, 02:21:15 PM »

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Be patient he'll get four more years soon enough.

With any luck, I sure hope so, because the alternative is too frightening... :o
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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #571 on: August 28, 2012, 02:30:06 PM »

With any luck, I sure hope so, because the alternative is too frightening...

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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #572 on: August 28, 2012, 02:35:18 PM »

Without regard to what people call themselves or say in vain attempts to justify their predilictions or differences from others from a political standpoint the fact remains that marxism, leninism, stalinism, fascism and the platforms of the UAW and Democratic Party, USA are nearly indistinguishable.  These few examples all fall under the category Socialism, and Romney/Neo-cons/RINOs do, too.


Hogwash... 8*

Marxism, Leninism, and Stalinist are all the same "communists" idealism's under different leadership...There still is NO comparison to the workings of the UAW or Democratic party and/or Republican party.  Sounds good and striking, but seriously nonsense...Now there is a bit of Fascism in our government, all big governments are to some degree, that's how they retain power.   Yet, Americans are still free to do as they please and have a voice in local and national elections as far as a true fascist state would be, you would have no voice, rights or freedoms that we all take for granted...
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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #573 on: August 28, 2012, 02:46:22 PM »


That's nice, but I care very little for an old German poets words where it concerns on the matter of Mitt Romney...He was also anti-Christian... 8*
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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #574 on: August 28, 2012, 02:58:11 PM »


A group of coal miners in Ohio feel they would have been fired if they did not attend an Aug. 14 event with presumptive Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney and contribute to his campaign — and to make matters worse, they lost of day of pay for their trouble.

In phone calls and emails to WWVA radio host David Blomquist, employees at the Century Mine in Ohio said they feared retaliation if they did not attend the Romney event.

“Yes, we were in fact told that the Romney event was mandatory and would be without pay, that the hours spent there would need to be made up my non-salaried employees outside of regular working hours, with the only other option being to take a pay cut for the equivalent time,” the employees told Blomquist. “Yes, letters have gone around with lists of names of employees who have not attended or donated to political events.”

“I realize that many people in this area and elsewhere would love to have my job or my benefits,” one worker explained. “And our bosses do not hesitate in reminding us of this. However, I can not agree with these callers and my supervisors, who are saying that just because you have a good job, that you should have to work any day for free on almost no notice without your consent.”

“We do not appreciate being intimidated into exchanging our time for nothing. I heard one of your callers saying that Murray employees are well aware of what they are getting into upon hire, or that they are informed that a percentage of their income will go to political donations. I can not speak for that caller, but this is news for me. We merely find out how things work by experience.”

Murray Energy Chief Financial Officer Rob Moore told Blomquist that the charges were untrue.

“There were no workers that were forced to attend the event,” Moore said. “We had managers that communicated to our work force that the attendance at the Romney event was mandatory, but no one was forced to attend the event. We had a pre-registration list. And employees were asked to put their names on a pre-registration list because they could not get into the event unless they were pre-registered and had a name tag to enter the premises.”

“What about not getting paid for an eight-hour day?” Blomquist wondered. “If the mine was shut down for the visit, I understand, but wouldn’t it be fair — let’s use the word ‘fair’ — to still pay these individuals for that day? I mean, it wasn’t their fault they weren’t working.”

“Our management people wanted to attend the event and we could not have people underground during Romney’s visit,” Moore insisted.

“But why not still pay then their wage for that day?” Blomquist pressed.

“By federal election law, we could not pay people to attend the event,” Moore replied. “And we did not want anyone to come back and see where anyone had been paid for that day.”

“I’m not saying pay then to attend the event, I’m saying, ‘Hey look, we have to close down the mine, if you want to attend this event, that’s fine, but you’re still going to get a day’s pay for the work that you would have done,’” Blomquist pointed out. “Why not do that?”

“As a private employer, it was our decision and we made the decision not to pay the people,” the Murray chief financial officer said.

“We’re talking about an event that was in the best interest of anyone that’s related to the coal industry,” Moore added. “I do not believe that missing an eight-hour day, when you put it into perspective, when you think about how critical — critical this next election is, and how critical it is that we get someone in this office that supports coal — to give up eight hours for a career, I just don’t believe that there is anything negative about that.”

At the time, conservative blogs and websites like The Daily Caller, The Gateway Pundit and Townhall trumpeted the fact that “hundreds of Ohio coal miners attended” the event. Even though the mine was closed on Aug. 14, soot-covered miners were staged behind the GOP hopeful as he spoke.

Earlier that month, Murray Energy Corporation and its founder, Robert Murray, had blamed President Barack Obama after they fired hundreds of workers and closed an operation near Brilliant, Ohio five years early.

Company leaders said that “regulatory actions by President Barack Obama and his appointees and followers [are] the entire reason” that operations were shutdown.

Robert Murray received national attention in 2009 after his Crandall Canyon Mine in Utah collapsed, leaving six miners trapped inside. Between 2005 and 2009, the Murray Energy Corp. Political Action Committee had given more than $150,000 to Republican candidates. Murray personally gave $15,000 to the National Republican Senatorial Committee in 2004 and $10,000 in 2006. The Ohio Valley Coal PAC, a group affiliated with Murray Energy, gave $10,000 to George W. Bush’s presidential campaign in 2000.

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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #575 on: August 28, 2012, 03:17:34 PM »

     Re: the announced speakers at the RNC annointing of their candidate the Wall St. Journal had this paragraph today...

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The line-up features a long list of governors and senators, including New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and Sen. Rob Portman of Ohio. Former presidential candidates Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich are on the agenda, as are former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. Former Vice President Dick Cheney and former President George W. Bush have said they won’t be attending, but a video from Mr. Bush is on Wednesday’s program.
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So, if Romney doesn't make the cut (or gets "cut" in other ways by loonie lefty protestor-types) and Paulites can't get their man christened, the name Jeb Bush crops up yet again. If that's not quite enough to warrant not watching the festivities by itself, the announced speakers are all confirmable RINOs and trotskyite NeoCons.  Interesting...
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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #576 on: August 28, 2012, 03:25:51 PM »

Hogwash...

     Have you had the pleasure of actually reading the UAW statement of principles vis-a-vis Marx' manifesto?  They are nearly indistinguishable documents, and the same goes for the Democratic Party, USA platform and the RNC's is a close 2nd place, too.

    Obama is a socialist, Romney is a socialist and it is my fervent belief and hope that socialists have especially hot corners of hell awaiting their arrival...whether their seats have D or R on them is of no consequence.
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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #577 on: August 28, 2012, 03:28:06 PM »

     
    Obama is a socialist, Romney is a socialist and it is my fervent belief and hope that socialists have especially hot corners of hell awaiting their arrival...whether their seats have D or R on them is of no consequence.

At least I'll have friends there.
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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #578 on: August 28, 2012, 07:32:01 PM »

RNC, Tampa with Komrade Romney front and center:

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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #579 on: August 28, 2012, 10:12:18 PM »

No matter the new birthers (err Teas) are gonna vote for Ron Paul on the 3rd ballot tommorw... remeber Pax? 

And even if they don't, Romney has your support anyways.
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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #580 on: August 29, 2012, 07:29:24 AM »

Here's an interesting link to a "play by play" breakdown of the RNC with links to fact check their claims....

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/08/28/758981/rnc-tuesday/

 
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« Reply #581 on: August 29, 2012, 10:32:37 AM »

     Have you had the pleasure of actually reading the UAW statement of principles vis-a-vis Marx' manifesto?  They are nearly indistinguishable documents, and the same goes for the Democratic Party, USA platform and the RNC's is a close 2nd place, too.

    Obama is a socialist, Romney is a socialist and it is my fervent belief and hope that socialists have especially hot corners of hell awaiting their arrival...whether their seats have D or R on them is of no consequence.


Only in your mind... 8*

They are far from it, especially Romney...Get a grip man...LOL


"A Socialist economic system would consist of an organization of production to directly satisfy economic demands and human needs, so that goods and services would be produced directly for use instead of for private profit driven by the accumulation of capital, and accounting would be based on physical quantities, a common physical magnitude, or a direct measure of labor-time. Distribution of output would be based on the principle of individual contribution."

That's about as simple a definition there could be, and one I firmly support...Call me a socialist, I think I like the label when it comes down to it...
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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #582 on: August 29, 2012, 11:57:33 AM »

More lies from the RNC.

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/rnc-tampa-night-one-12158408?hootPostID=bdcfebd93802418d27b1760095054829

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TAMPA, Fla. — It was about halfway through the speech given by Mary Fallin, by the grace of a pitiless god the governor of Oklahoma, where I finally came close to losing it. She rolled herself into this remarkable passage:
 
The history of my great state of Oklahoma offers a great example of pursuing the American Dream. It was built and settled by pioneers movibe west to seek better lives. During the Great Land Run of 1889, thousands of families rushed to put a stake down on empty plots of land. They built tent cities overnight. They farmed the land and they worked hard. And, in 1897, eight years after the land run, a handful of adventurous pioneers risked their own money — not the federal government's money — to drill Oklahoma's first oil well, the Nellie Johnstone. By doing so, these early-day pioneers changed the future and Oklahoma forever and today Oklahoma is one of the nation's key energy producers and job creators. President Obama wants us to believe that Oklahomans owe that success to the federal government — to the Department Of Energy,to the EPA, to the IRS, or maybe even to him. Mr. President, we know better. As we say in Oklahoma, that dog won't hunt.
 
Handed in as a seventh-grade history essay, this would get no better than a D. Delivered to the convention of one of our only two political parties, it was perhaps the most singularly dishonest speech I have ever seen a politician give, and I grew up in Massachusetts, and Willard Romney was once my governor. My god, Oklahomans wouldn't even have Oklahoma without the federal government, without the Homestead Act of 1889 or the Railroad Act — both, by the way, achievements of a Republican presidents named Abraham Lincoln and Benjamin Harrison. And the land wasn't exactly "empty," Governor. It got emptied by a big-government program called the United States Army. You know what your state would be without the federal government, Governor, without the votes for the legislation from congressmen from the east and north, without the soldiers from New England and the Great Lakes? You know what Oklahoma would be?
 
Sand, with a whole lot of pissed-off Native Americans

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It was an entire evening based on a demonstrable lie, and it was topped off by a demonstrable liar named Chris Christie, who talked about how the president can't lead, and that nobody wants to tell the Americans the truth of the sacrifices we have to share, and talked about "politicians who pander" at a convention that is preparing to nominate Willard Romney, which was the final hilarious lie of the night, since Romney hasn't stopped pandering since he walked down the steps of the Massachusetts State House in 2006.
 
Earlier, though, Christie rang the theme of the evening's overriding demonstrable lie, too. He talked about how his family Built It, his Irish father and his Sicilian mother.
 
They both lived hard lives. Dad grew up in poverty. After returning from Army service, he worked at the Breyer's ice-cream plant in the 1950's. With that job, and the GI Bill, he put himself through Rutgers University at night to become the first in his family to earn a college degree.
 
Chris, old man, you didn't even build yourself yourself. The tax dollars — the federal tax dollars — of, among other people, my parents paid your father's Army salary, and they paid for the G.I. Bill. The tax dollars of thousands of other people paid for his education at Rutgers, which is, as it proclaims, The State University Of New Jersey. All of them were proud to do it, because they knew that they were part of a political commonwealth that has as its proudest expression a national government in which all citizens have purchase.
 
And, Chris, and Bob, and Sher, and Jack, and all of you, you're welcome.
 
Liars.
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« Reply #583 on: August 29, 2012, 12:43:51 PM »

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Re: Mitt Romney
« Reply #584 on: August 29, 2012, 03:35:25 PM »

More lies from the RNC.

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/rnc-tampa-night-one-12158408?hootPostID=bdcfebd93802418d27b1760095054829

And some more...


Do you fact check the Democrat speeches with the same scrutiny?  If you did I think you would be highly disappointed in your home team too.
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