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[eriemermaid]

One would think by how the right talks here that all not on the far right are too stupid to dress themselves and drown in their own drool...

Uh Oh, and here I sit in my bathrobe! (again)  Guess I'd better go get dressed!

[livewire]

That is the problem with a majority of Government budgeting.

Huh?  What is "budgeting"?

Our federal government, and it's "leader" (I use that term very loosely), don't NEED to have a budget, evidently.

And the liberals have no problem with that. 

I wonder why?

[Forsythia]

Hmmm seems to me we're doing just fine.  You guys can vote for a draft dodger if you want, but I wont.

[Monroe Native]

Actually the hardest thing for a liberal to understand, is how to communicate with a conservative.

Why?  Do conservatives use words you don't understand?

[Forsythia]

Why?  Do conservatives use words you don't understand?

Actually if you look at the numbers Liberals are more educated.  I even think Santorum argued that the republicans will never get the intelligent people.  How does that make you feel?

[marilyn.monroe]

If you look at the numbers Americans are undereducated.

Monroe on a Budget blogged on the issue:



The Monroe County Local College Access Network has been working with a grant to research and discuss ways to increase the education level among Monroe County, Mich., residents.
 
At a meeting today (Sept. 26), the committee distributed some preliminary reports including  a variety of statistics that it had collected. Most of the numbers are for the 2010-11 academic year.
 
The key static the committee is watching involves adults age 25 to 64 with a two- or four-year degree. Those numbers are:
 •United States: 38.3 percent.
 •Michigan: 36.3 percent.
 •Monroe County: 28.8 percent.
http://www.blogsmonroe.com/budget/2012/09/only-28-percent-of-monroe-county-mi-adults-have-even-a-2-year-degree/comment-page-1/#comment-43458

DTE must be run by liberals..

[Monroe Native]

Actually if you look at the numbers Liberals are more educated.  I even think Santorum argued that the republicans will never get the intelligent people.  How does that make you feel?

I know several highly educated people who have such an absence of common sense that they can barely function in life without hurting themselves and others.  It makes perfect sense they are liberals, cause they need someone to take care of them.

Yes, they have PhD degrees from genuine institutions of higher education, where they paid tons of money to get a piece of paper that only makes them qualified to educate others in the same useless information they learned.  They also got indoctrinated in the ways of Liberal thinking - ie they were taught to ignore logic, reason, and facts.  They write papers that only their peers read to stay relevant.

Yep - you can keep them.

I would rather hang out with the engineers, scientists, lawyers, chemists, etc etc etc who learned something useful, got a job, and are conservative.

How about THAT!

[Forsythia]

Strange but most of the people you listed tend to be liberals who are capable of free thinking and researching the facts.  You do understand that when I said better educated I wasn't talking about specific degrees tight?  Oh I forgot that most conservatives have comprehension issues.  Again refer to my tag line...if you actually did some research you would find that people in more socialized countries are generally better educated, happy, and more healthy than americans.

[lilly]

Why?  Do conservatives use words you don't understand?

Quite the contrary. They seem to be more inclined to take cheap shots than to have an intelligent conversation.

[Monroe Native]

Strange but most of the people you listed tend to be liberals who are capable of free thinking and researching the facts.  You do understand that when I said better educated I wasn't talking about specific degrees tight?  Oh I forgot that most conservatives have comprehension issues.  Again refer to my tag line...if you actually did some research you would find that people in more socialized countries are generally better educated, happy, and more healthy than americans.

Quite the contrary. They seem to be more inclined to take cheap shots than to have an intelligent conversation.

Yep.  No name calling from the Liberal side.

Only intelligent discussion.

Now - I don't think I have done anything today that I wouldn't do in front of mom, dad, or a priest, and I think I will try to continue that here.

I agreed that lots of academics are liberals.  I also expressed a belief that technical / scientific types seem to go conservative, which seems to be factual from the people I know, and you come back with a generality.

I am personally not going to take your bait and stoop to your level.

If either of you want to have an intelligent discussion let me know.

[lilly]

If either of you want to have an intelligent discussion let me know.

Why?  Do conservatives use words you don't understand?

I'll wait until the cheap shots wind down.

I am personally not going to take your bait and stoop to your level.

[Monroe Native]

I'll wait until the cheap shots wind down.

Peace at last!

You seem to be following the advice "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."

Very admirable.

[Baggins]

Here's some food for thought on Mr. Romney's tax concerns...

    In 2011, the Romneys paid $1,935,708 in taxes on $13,696,951 in mostly investment income.

    The Romneys’ effective tax rate for 2011 was 14.1%.

    The Romneys donated $4,020,772 to charity in 2011, amounting to nearly 30% of their income.

    The Romneys claimed a deduction for $2.25 million of those charitable contributions.

    The Romneys’ "generous" charitable donations in 2011 would have significantly reduced their tax obligation for the year.

    The Romneys thus limited their deduction of charitable contributions to conform to the Governor’s statement in August, based upon the January estimate of income, that he paid at least 13% in income taxes in each of the last 10 years.

Romney has previously defended his low tax rate — which, at 14.1% is significantly less than many middle class families pay — by saying he is simply being "pragmatic" in meeting his legal requirements.

    "I don’t pay more than are legally due and frankly if I had paid more than are legally due I don’t think I’d be qualified to become president. I’d think people would want me to follow the law and pay only what the tax code requires".

If Romney had taken all of the deductions available to him under the tax code, he would have paid closer to a 9 percent tax rate in 2011. In attempting to match up his tax rate with his prior statement, Romney is paying more in taxes — and by his very own standard — disqualifying himself from the presidency. It’s worth noting that under Romney’s tax plan, he would cut his own rates even further, and would have paid little to no taxes under Paul Ryan’s 2010 budget, which would have eliminated the capital gains tax.

[Monroe Native]

Here's some food for thought on Mr. Romney's tax concerns...

    In 2011, the Romneys paid $1,935,708 in taxes on $13,696,951 in mostly investment income.

    The Romneys’ effective tax rate for 2011 was 14.1%.

    The Romneys donated $4,020,772 to charity in 2011, amounting to nearly 30% of their income.

    The Romneys claimed a deduction for $2.25 million of those charitable contributions.

    The Romneys’ "generous" charitable donations in 2011 would have significantly reduced their tax obligation for the year.

    The Romneys thus limited their deduction of charitable contributions to conform to the Governor’s statement in August, based upon the January estimate of income, that he paid at least 13% in income taxes in each of the last 10 years.

Romney has previously defended his low tax rate — which, at 14.1% is significantly less than many middle class families pay — by saying he is simply being "pragmatic" in meeting his legal requirements.

    "I don’t pay more than are legally due and frankly if I had paid more than are legally due I don’t think I’d be qualified to become president. I’d think people would want me to follow the law and pay only what the tax code requires".

If Romney had taken all of the deductions available to him under the tax code, he would have paid closer to a 9 percent tax rate in 2011. In attempting to match up his tax rate with his prior statement, Romney is paying more in taxes — and by his very own standard — disqualifying himself from the presidency. It’s worth noting that under Romney’s tax plan, he would cut his own rates even further, and would have paid little to no taxes under Paul Ryan’s 2010 budget, which would have eliminated the capital gains tax.

What is your point?

He should have given less to charity and given it all to the government?  He should be less generous to charities?

Did he follow the tax code that is the law of the land?

WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

[marilyn.monroe]

What is your point?

He should have given less to charity and given it all to the government?  He should be less generous to charities?

Did he follow the tax code that is the law of the land?

WHAT IS YOUR POINT?

Romney doesn't give a crap about people not currently paying income taxes?