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[MM1]

Time will tell. 

[Professor H]

This year's election will be decided in Ohio, Florida and Virginia.  Romney is behind and fading fast in all three.

Yep just think how much a landslide it would be if anyone could vote anywhere...

[John Kopke]

I hear and read that the right is blaming Romney for being a bad candidate.  I don’t agree with that.  During the primaries he tried to be a moderate to a lot of far right candidates who revolved around taking some state primaries.  Since Romney became the one running he has had to shift hard right and cater to the far right hoping to get them to vote for him, abandoning the middle.  By pandering to the extreme right he has annoyed the center independents.  Romney isn’t the “fault” with the campaign, the tea radical agenda is.  That is what is being rejected.

As per past polling the majority of people do blame the tax cuts as a part of the deficit problems.  They see Republican economic policy as a big share of why the economy crashed so badly.  Cut taxes for the very rich (to provide jobs that never materialized) and cut regulation which allowed the banks to gamble and lose.  They see that the Democrats policies have only slowly helped the economy, but don’t want to go back to what has shown to fail.

Then all the social radical stuff.  The push to make having any abortion illegal even if it is legal;  not wanting women to receive equal pay for equal work; the thinly disguised racism.

But, it all may not have mattered because the hostage taking of the debt limit extension again went too far.  I know the right blames Obama for no budget or the debt ceiling having to be raised.  But the people saw one side play chicken with the economy and their lives.  People saw it completely as a political ploy to make the D’s give them everything that they wanted or else.  They didn’t like it.  It doesn’t even matter a bit if they were right or wrong, the people saw blatant extortion.  So, in a way, when the R’s push the refusal to raise the debt limit or work on a budget (blaming Obama when it is their job) the people are reminded of the extortion instead.

But, what I think is more prominent than anything is the divide.  Yeah, the media says it is both and that is the rhetoric.  The “my way or the highway” brand of politics the right pushes is slowly becoming clear to people.  People are used to political spin and procedural tools to try and get compromise.  They don’t get the “if it can’t be my way then no way” mentality.

It is like with Governor Walker or even Snyder.  They were elected and both rushed through extreme policies.  The right called it their just due because they won.  Obama and the D’s won, and were fought tooth and nail at every step.  Why does one side get to ram bad legislation through and the other not get compromise?

In short, Romney is losing because of the intolerance of the far right that took over the R party and people are starting to see the extremism as bad; maybe not the political views, but the refusal to compromise.

This place has never been tolerant of anyone else’s views.  It always has had those that prefer to piss people off in any way rather than talk.  What I wonder about lately is the upping of the hate is because they know Romney is not doing well, or because they realize that the extremism that they want is becoming clear to the majority and being rejected as too extreme.

I think for those here it is an attempt to raise their own and other’s emotional level enough to hold their noses and vote for someone they don’t want because that other guy is a pure evil socialist Nazi Kenyan Muslim space alien.  They do not see the beginnings of the rejection of their extremism.

I do not think the election is a sure thing, but Romney has never had a lead at any time that I can recall.  The wholesale voting registration purges WILL have an effect.

The radical right? The radical right! This I assume you mean those of the conservative bent. We "radicals" believe trillion dollar plus yearly deficits are dangerous thing for the future of the country. Your side blows them off.
It is necessary to borrow and print money to maintain the welfare state because that is the compassionte thing.
But what will Obama do when he runs out of other people's money and the Fed's printed money ends up devaluing  the currency at a rate of 15-20% per year? Blame it on Bush?

No Romney isn't my first choice. Yet his business background is one that revives faiing businesses. And Obama's business background? Zip, nada, nothing. Throwing 48 billion taxpayer dollars to resusitate GM isn't what I would
call innovative and transformative.

Obama has no plan. If you have a plan you can be criticized, better to bash Romney and Ryan who have a plan.
Same strategy for Dem Senate. Don't offer a budget because it might not be politically beneficial, just bash the
budget the Republican Congress offered. 

Duck it boils down to this. Win at any cost and screw the country. 
 

[TLaitur]

The Mormon Church is a major contributor to his Super PAC

Bags:  I'll give you a chance to prove your statement.  Because even by imbecilic standards; that statement is ridiculous!

 

[Will Sweat]

The radical right? The radical right! This I assume you mean those of the conservative bent. We "radicals" believe trillion dollar plus yearly deficits are dangerous thing for the future of the country.

John - I believe that if it were just economic conservatism than it would not be an issue as most people grasp that you cannot spend more than you take it.  The issue, IMO, is / are the "social conservative" issues that get woven into much of the message by Republicans. 

[lilly]

Duck it boils down to this. Win at any cost and screw the country.

Wasn't that the battle cry of the Republican party when Obama was inaugurated?

[Baggins]

Ask President Gore how meaningful those percentages are.

Final results of 2000 Presidential Election:

Al Gore:  48.4%
George W. Bush:  47.9%

This year's election will be decided in Ohio, Florida and Virginia.  Romney is behind and fading fast in all three.

Now that's a good point...We will know nothing until the last hammer falls...

Bags:  I'll give you a chance to prove your statement.  Because even by imbecilic standards; that statement is ridiculous!

OK, how is it ridiculous...?

No need to insult either, makes you more childish and I can't take you seriously...

http://blogs.reuters.com/ben-walsh/2012/09/25/how-generous-is-mitt-romney/

I shouldn't have to post something else to prove anything, I wouldn't post it in the first place if it wasn't true...But, none of you brainwashed minions have the wherewithal or simple capacity to think for yourselves, you need it given, so you can be the typical cog in the wheel and be lead to your intellectual sustenance.

[lilly]

Sorry Baggins, I must be missing something. I can't find in that opinion article the information that backs up your position.

Could you copy and paste the paragraph here?

[Baggins]

Sorry Baggins, I must be missing something. I can't find in that opinion article the information that backs up your position.

Could you copy and paste the paragraph here?

http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2012/04/26/151379832/on-the-million-dollar-trail-of-a-mystery-superpac-donor

The connection is obvious...

[sammy]

If a Methodist donated a million dollars,it would only be fair to extrapolate that the Methodist Church had donated a million dollars. I see what you did there.

[DogLover]

http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2012/04/26/151379832/on-the-million-dollar-trail-of-a-mystery-superpac-donor

The connection is obvious...

I have not decided who to vote for as yet, so read all these posts, but this one I needed to reply to:
You know what they say about Assuming Baggins, I rather see facts please.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php?id=N00000286
I have pulled up the list of major contributors to Mr. Romneys campaign and I don't see the church on it.

This table lists the top donors to this candidate in the 2012 election cycle. The organizations themselves did not donate , rather the money came from the organizations' PACs, their individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates.

Because of contribution limits, organizations that bundle together many individual contributions are often among the top donors to presidential candidates. These contributions can come from the organization's members or employees (and their families). The organization may support one candidate, or hedge its bets by supporting multiple candidates. Groups with national networks of donors - like EMILY's List and Club for Growth - make for particularly big bundlers.

Goldman Sachs  $891,140
Bank of America  $667,139
JPMorgan Chase & Co  $662,719
Morgan Stanley  $649,847
Credit Suisse Group  $554,066
Citigroup Inc  $418,263
Wells Fargo  $412,250
Barclays  $403,800
Kirkland & Ellis  $393,667
Deloitte LLP  $355,390
HIG Capital  $338,000
PricewaterhouseCoopers  $333,600
Blackstone Group  $313,725
UBS AG  $308,130
Elliott Management  $281,175
Bain Capital  $268,470
EMC Corp  $252,250
General Electric  $214,450
Ernst & Young  $212,025
Sullivan & Cromwell  $197,150

[lilly]

http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2012/04/26/151379832/on-the-million-dollar-trail-of-a-mystery-superpac-donor

The connection is obvious...

If a Methodist donated a million dollars,it would only be fair to extrapolate that the Methodist Church had donated a million dollars. I see what you did there.

I have to agree with Sammy here. Churches (any church) are prohibited from donating directly to any political organization, or they lose their tax exempt status.

I don't see any church foolish enough to do that.

[Monroe Native]

I have not decided who to vote for as yet, so read all these posts, but this one I needed to reply to:
You know what they say about Assuming Baggins, I rather see facts please.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php?id=N00000286
I have pulled up the list of major contributors to Mr. Romneys campaign and I don't see the church on it.

This table lists the top donors to this candidate in the 2012 election cycle. The organizations themselves did not donate , rather the money came from the organizations' PACs, their individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates.

Because of contribution limits, organizations that bundle together many individual contributions are often among the top donors to presidential candidates. These contributions can come from the organization's members or employees (and their families). The organization may support one candidate, or hedge its bets by supporting multiple candidates. Groups with national networks of donors - like EMILY's List and Club for Growth - make for particularly big bundlers.

Goldman Sachs  $891,140
Bank of America  $667,139
JPMorgan Chase & Co  $662,719
Morgan Stanley  $649,847
Credit Suisse Group  $554,066
Citigroup Inc  $418,263
Wells Fargo  $412,250
Barclays  $403,800
Kirkland & Ellis  $393,667
Deloitte LLP  $355,390
HIG Capital  $338,000
PricewaterhouseCoopers  $333,600
Blackstone Group  $313,725
UBS AG  $308,130
Elliott Management  $281,175
Bain Capital  $268,470
EMC Corp  $252,250
General Electric  $214,450
Ernst & Young  $212,025
Sullivan & Cromwell  $197,150

I am guessing if you pulled up Barack Obama's campaign contributors you would see many of the same names.

It is called hedging your bets.

[Frenchfry]

What Is Mitt Romney's Favorite Attack Line...? Because He Is SO Concerned About Americans

What Is Mitt Romney's Favorite Attack Line...? Because He Is SO Concerned About Americans

[Frenchfry]

Mitt Romney addressed the U.S. Hispanic Chamber of Commerce in Los Angeles, a hidden camera video shot months earlier at a $50,000 a plate Florida fundraiser was released.

The undercover video contained a curious reference to Latinos by the candidate who did not know he was being recorded.

Among other unfortunate remarks he has since struggled to explain, including one about Palestinians being perennially belligerent and another about the “47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what,” Romney mentioned his biographical anomaly.

He reminded the high-rollers at the fundraiser that his father -- the late governor, auto executive, cabinet secretary and presidential candidate -- George Romney was born in Mexico.

http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2012/09/19/geraldo-rivera-mitts-mexican-roots/