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'Wife of Jesus' reference in Coptic 4th Century script
« on: September 19, 2012, 10:41:27 AM »

An ancient scrap of papyrus makes explicit reference to Jesus having a wife, according to a renowned expert in Christian history.

Harvard divinity professor Karen King unveiled the 4th-Century Coptic script at a conference in Rome.  She said researchers had identified the words "Jesus said to them, 'my wife'", which might refer to Mary Magdalene.  Christian tradition holds that Jesus did not marry - but Ms King said in early years it was subject to debate.  The provocative find could spark debate over celibacy and the role of women within Christianity, she added.

But the announcement sparked skepticism from some theologians.

Jim West, a professor and Baptist pastor in Tennessee, said: "A statement on a papyrus fragment isn't proof of anything. It's nothing more than a statement 'in thin air', without substantial context."

Wolf-Peter Funk, a noted Coptic linguist attending the same conference as Ms King, said there were "thousands of scraps of papyrus where you find crazy things," and many questions remained about the fragment. (To me, it just sounds like they are trying to make excuses to dismiss.)

Ms King said the document, written in ancient Egyptian Coptic, is the first known scripture in which Jesus is reported to cite his wife.  She said the 4th-Century text was a copy of a gospel, probably written in Greek in the 2nd Century.  She said initially she was sceptical about the yellowish brown papyrus, and started from the notion that it was a forgery - but that she quickly decided it was genuine.  Several other experts agreed, she said, but the "final judgment on the fragment depends on further examination by colleagues and further testing, especially of the chemical composition of the ink".

Ms King said the script was not proof of Jesus's marital status.  "It is not evidence, for us, historically, that Jesus had a wife," she said.  "It's quite clear evidence, in fact, that some Christians, probably in the second half of the 2nd Century, thought that Jesus had a wife."

Ms King said it revealed the concerns of early Christians with regards to family and marriage matters.  "From the very beginning, Christians disagreed about whether it was better not to marry, but it was over a century after Jesus's death before they began appealing to Jesus's marital status to support their positions.  "What this shows is that there were early Christians for whom sexual union in marriage could be an imitation of God's creativity and generativity and it could be spiritually proper and appropriate."

Bible scholar Ben Witherington III, a professor in Kentucky, said the term "wife" might simply refer to a female domestic assistant and follower. (so Jesus had a secretary... 8*)


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19645273
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Re: 'Wife of Jesus' reference in Coptic 4th Century script
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2012, 06:17:13 PM »

Yeah... This isn't any where near proof Jesus was married.
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« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2012, 06:26:19 PM »

Yeah... This isn't any where near proof Jesus was married.


There isn't proof he didn't either...
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« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2012, 10:00:18 PM »

I've never thought of Jesus as a married man, although I'm sure he would have been a wonderful husband.
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« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2012, 10:04:31 PM »

I doubt he was married, how can we forget about the 12 boyfriends.
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Re: 'Wife of Jesus' reference in Coptic 4th Century script
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2012, 12:14:33 AM »


There isn't proof he didn't either...

Right. And there's no proof he didn't have pierced nipples or a vestigial tail.
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Re: 'Wife of Jesus' reference in Coptic 4th Century script
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2012, 06:10:52 AM »

I doubt he was married, how can we forget about the 12 boyfriends.
Is this like you and your bowling team??   ;)
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« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2012, 08:53:58 AM »

Is this like you and your bowling team??   ;)
Hmmm, now this seems unnecessary and kinda mean spirited. JMO, of course.  ;)
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Re: 'Wife of Jesus' reference in Coptic 4th Century script
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2012, 09:42:38 AM »

Right. And there's no proof he didn't have pierced nipples or a vestigial tail.


Now you're just being silly... 8*
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