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Yes

4 (28.6%)

No

10 (71.4%)

Total Members Voted: 14

[The Fuzz]

I had that very same thought this morning too, ell.

This week one for approval of international bridges and tunnels, and next week major road construction projects.

I would hope, and I know I'm unfortunately wrong, that we could entrust our elected reps and senators to do the right thing.  Regardless, I just think this is a state government decision.

[Skittelroo]

Glad to see a sane discussion here.  Really appreciate your help.  Fuzz and lily, glad you were able to explain the wording of the proposal so deciding which way to vote will be what I mean to pick.

[blue2]

I'm going to need clarification as I have not followed at all.  All I know is I'm in favor of letting Canada build the bridge if that's what they want.  Otherwise screw the bridge and I'll use the one that's there now.  So whichever  hole I punch that's all I need to know.

[excelsior]

There's two bridges an hour North of Detroit if they don't like the "two" in Detroit. I haven't heard anyone complaining about being denied fair crossing by Moroun.

Avoiding Maroun's bridge would mean driving 65 miles North and 65 miles South or 130 miles.   5 mpg equates to 26 gallons of diesel.  4 dollars per gallon would add 104 dollar fuel bill plus 2 lost man hours.

Can you guess which bridge charges the highest rates for trucks?

Ambassador Bridge tolls raised 19 percent for traffic entering Canada
more at: http://www.theoaklandpress.com/articles/2012/07/05/business/doc4ff617e8e015e565599898.txt?viewmode=default

“The 19 percent increase in automobile tolls will net the Moroun family an additional $3.46 million per year (based on 2011 traffic), which should help them cover some of the cost for their multi-million dollar misinformation campaign against the New International Trade Crossing. This increase is a lesson in economics as the monopoly bridge owner increases his rates to spend additional dollars to keep out the competition,” according to New International Trade Crossing Coalition, which supports construction of the second bridge across.

The Ambassador Bridge also charges the highest rates for commercial vehicles and is one of the few bridges to charge trucks by both the number of axles and by weight, the statement said.

[SMASH]

This Bridge will be built regardless of what Matty or the People want or decide.

We and Matty are irrealevant to this situation.

It is a Federal matter, period.

U.S. and Michigan citizen dollars will be spent for various things and to various degrees on this Bridge no matter what.

The Bridge will be monitored and servailed by the Dept. of Homeland Security and FEMA. That right there alone shows where a portion of U.S. and Michigan dollars will be spent.

This Bridge project has been on and in the books for well over a decade. It did not just pop up in the past couple of years, and was on it's way well before Gov. Snyder was elected.

[Professor H]

A change to the Constitution should be a lasting one, not for a singular event.

[Forsythia]

A change to the Constitution should be a lasting one, not for a singular event.

Actually this proposal effects all future bridge building.  If you look at the numbers though, Michigan residents won't be paying much for it.  The money will come from federal sources.

[jbs49238]

Prof H is right.

Should say the Sault Ste. Marie crossing suddenly have a trgic failure, we would have to wait for the next election to even have a chance to get the next one built.

We elect Reps for a reason.  Let them do their job and toss them when they fail to do so.

This whole notion of not enough AMERICAN workers... not enough AMERICAN steel... AMERICAN ISN'T BUILDING THE DAMN BRIDGE!  Maroun is using artificial chest puffing to try to maintain HIS MONOPOLY.  There are a whole lot of bridges erected in the world that do not use American steel, and you know what... if our steel is most cost efficient for Canada to use in Windsor, they will.

[The Fuzz]

Actually this proposal effects all future bridge building.  If you look at the numbers though, Michigan residents won't be paying much for it.  The money will come from federal sources.

Just for clarification....it applies only to international bridges and tunnels.

[Professor H]

Just for clarification....it applies only to international bridges and tunnels.

I can see the Feds nullifying it then...   They have jurisdiction - and in fact have already approved it.

[marilyn.monroe]

I can see the Feds nullifying it then...   They have jurisdiction - and in fact have already approved it.

Who gave the Feds jurisdiction over Michigan bridges?

[jbs49238]

Who gave the Feds jurisdiction over Michigan bridges?

Who said it is a Michigan bridge?  Maroun is a liar, you need to stop listening to him.

[Monroe Native]

Who gave the Feds jurisdiction over Michigan bridges?

It is an international crossing - not a Michigan Bridge.

In fact the constitution gives authority for international affairs to the feds, along with interstate commerce.

Feds have a BIG say in this.

[jbs49238]

Who gave the Feds jurisdiction over Michigan bridges?

What gives Michigan voters the right to interfere in Canadian affairs?

[marilyn.monroe]

The Constitution doesn't give authority to for international affairs to the feds, the commerce clause directs the Fed to regulate commerce. How does that translate into building roads and bridges?

"We are a sovereign state first of all. Federal government, do not any longer tell us or entice us to go in a direction for which we cannot afford to go nor properly should go.”
{10th Amendment}

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2012/03/20/447734/tenther-pa-senate-federal-highways-are-unconstitutional/?mobile=nc