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Any Politician that takes foreign contributions is committing a crime.   The Curious Case of Obama.com on page 63 is an interesting read.

America the Vulnerable: Are Foreign and Fraudulent Online Contributions Influencing U.S. Elections?

more at:  http://campaignfundingrisks.com/wp-content/themes/cfr/images/AmericaTheVulnerable.pdf

The Government Accountability Institute (GAI or “the Institute”) conducted an extensive eight month investigation into the potential for foreign and fraudulent online campaign donations to influence House, Senate, and presidential elections.  The findings are alarming.  As FBI surveillance tapes have previously shown, foreign governments understand and are eager to exploit the weaknesses of American campaigns. 1

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LOL....the right is desperate. Citing a GAI report...as if it's the GAO

You righties are a hoot.

http://www.examiner.com/article/gai-report-exposes-obama-campaign-accepting-foreign-donations
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I know the fraud part would be a crime, but I know I read somewhere or learned back in school about foreign contributions to a campaign are a no no as well. 

Memory check me guys?
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I know the fraud part would be a crime, but I know I read somewhere or learned back in school about foreign contributions to a campaign are a no no as well. 

Memory check me guys?
Campaign Contribution Laws for Individuals
For 2011-2012 Election Cycle

By Robert Longley, About.com Guide

If you decide to contribute to a political candidate, you should know that the Federal Campaign Finance Law places legal limits on how much and what you can give. Representatives of the candidate's campaign committee should be aware of these laws and inform you of them. But, just in case...

Individual contribution limits for 2011-2012

The following limits apply to contributions from individuals to candidates for all Federal offices.

    $2,500 per Election to a Federal candidate -- Each primary, runoff, and general election counts as a separate election.
    $30,800 per calendar year to a national party committee -- applies separately to a party's national committee, and House and Senate campaign committee.
    $10,000 per calendar year to state, district & local party committees
    $5,000 per calendar year to state, district & local party committee

Aggregate Total -- $117,000 per two-year election cycle as follows:

    $46,200 per two-year cycle to candidates
    $70,800 per two-year cycle to all national party committees and PACs

NOTE: Married couples are considered to be separate individuals with separate contribution limits.

Can anybody contribute?

Certain individuals, businesses, and associations are prohibited from making contributions to Federal candidates or political committees.

    Foreign nationals -- may not contribute to any candidate or party in any Federal, state, or local election in the United States. Foreign citizens who have permanent US residency status (posses a "green card") are allowed to contribute according to the same laws as American citizens.

    Federal contractors -- individuals or businesses under contract to provide goods or services to the Federal government are prohibited from contributing to candidates or parties in Federal elections.

    Corporations and Labor Unions -- are also prohibited form contributing. This law applies to all incorporated organizations, profit or non-profit. Business owners are not allowed to make contributions from their business accounts. Although corporations and labor organizations may not make contributions or expenditures in connection with federal elections, they may establish PACs.

    Cash -- in any amount over $100 is prohibited.

    Contributions in the name of another person -- are not permitted. Note: Parents may not make contributions in the names of their children. Persons under 18 may contribute, but must do so willingly, under their own names, and with their own money.

What constitutes a "contribution?"

Besides checks and currency, the FEC considers "...anything of value given to influence a Federal election" to be a contribution. Note that this does not include volunteer work. As long as you are not compensated for it, you can perform an unlimited amount of volunteer work.

Donations of food, beverages, office supplies, printing or other services, furniture, etc. are considered "in-kind" contributions, so their value counts against contribution limits.

Important: Questions should be directed to the Federal Election Commission in Washington, DC: 800/424-9530 (toll free) or 202/694-1100.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepoliticalsystem/a/contriblaws.htm

The red herring story is from the right-wing site townhall:

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2012/10/08/exposing_barack_obamas_illegal_foreign_campaign_money_loophole

The complaint they're trying to drum up is about this site:

https://contribute.barackobama.com/donation/index-ovf.html

Could be a fake site:
http://washingtonexaminer.com/report-obama.com-solicits-foreign-contributions-for-prez/article/2510096

But it does have this:
 By submitting the form above you confirm that the following statements are true and accurate:

    I am a United States citizen or a lawfully admitted permanent resident of the United States.
    This contribution is not made from the general treasury funds of a corporation, labor organization or national bank.
    This contribution is not made from the treasury of an entity or person who is a federal contractor.
    This contribution is not made from the funds of a political action committee.
    This contribution is not made from the funds of an individual registered as a federal lobbyist or a foreign agent, or an entity that is a federally registered lobbying firm or foreign agent.
    I am not a minor under the age of 16.
    The funds I am donating are not being provided to me by another person or entity for the purpose of making this contribution.
https://contribute.barackobama.com/donation/index-ovf.html

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The Obama campaign has received hundreds of millions in small dollar donations, many via credit card donations through their website. On Thursday, the campaign announced a record September donor haul of $150 million.
http://washingtonexaminer.com/was-obama-rattled-by-developing-donor-scandal-story/article/2509895#.UHLjEkLdI20

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In his 2010 State of the Union Address, the president slammed the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision because, “I don’t think American elections should be bankrolled by America’s most powerful interests, or worse, by foreign entities.”

The issue arose again when the Obama Administration alleged, during the 2010 elections, that the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and Republican Super PACs were bankrolled by foreigners. David Axelrod led the charge, but mustered no proof for his case; rather, he demanded that the Chamber prove it was not funded by foreigners. Making the rounds on the Sunday shows, Axelrod asked Bob Schieffer:

    Do you have any evidence that it’s not, Bob? The fact is that the Chamber has asserted that, but they won’t release any information about where their campaign money is coming from. And that’s at the core of the problem.

Regarding Super PACs, Axelrod told ABC’s Christianne Amanpour:

    I mean, if you — they’re spending tens of millions of dollars. In some districts, they’re spending more money than the candidate — candidates themselves on negative ads from benign-sounding Americans for Prosperity, the American Crossroads Fund. No. These are front groups for special interests. These are front groups for foreign-controlled companies…and they don’t want the American people to know, and the American people ought to be alert to that.

As Axelrod noted, neither the Chamber nor the Super PACs were obliged to disclose their sources of funding. Likewise, the Obama campaign is not obligated to disclose the names of donors who contribute less than $200.
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/329687/hypocrisy-those-foreign-campaign-contributions-eliana-johnson

Let's face it...the Republicans are desperate....and right now retaliation with baseless accusations is their game.
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Thanks.....can't remember if I learned that in school, or if it was a news item over my lifetime.  Thought there was something regulating foreign agents or nationalist.

Hell of a money trial there though.....individuals are limited to $117K.  Makes one wonder how the nearly quarter billion raised just last month between both major party candidates all comes from.

God, I hate what politics and government has become!
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Thanks.....can't remember if I learned that in school, or if it was a news item over my lifetime.  Thought there was something regulating foreign agents or nationalist.

Hell of a money trial there though.....individuals are limited to $117K.  Makes one wonder how the nearly quarter billion raised just last month between both major party candidates all comes from.

God, I hate what politics and government has become!
What trail? It's all BS to create suspicion.
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What trail? It's all BS to create suspicion.
Seems like someone made a big deal awhile ago about "maybe Romney is taking 'foreign money'. Same shoe, different foot?
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What trail? It's all BS to create suspicion.

Hum, I responded but I don't see it here.

Anyway, what I meant was that in order for both candidates to raise in one month a combined total of a quarter billion bucks and the limitation for individuals is only $117K/2 year cycle then there has to be a bulk of it coming from special interest groups.
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Super pacs are people, too, you know!
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......and therefore my point about hating what politics and our government has become.  The money trial provides too much indebtedness. 
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Super pacs are people, too, you know!
While I like the statement, it's just not true. In politics, SuperPacs are BETTER than people. They don't have any limits set on them as to how much money they can contribute towards influencing an election.
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And that is what has me so disillusioned with both major parties, lilly.

I just don't feel that the constituents are cared for anymore.  It's all about pleasing the special interests, and then have them donate money at election time to help convince the constituents that they should be reelected......and we have a pattern of falling right into that act.

 
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I think that this report's recommendations are reasonable and could be implemented in short order.

1. All campaigns must employ industry standard security tools on their websites to guard against fraudulent donations, specifically the CVV and AVS. AVS should be implemented to require address information be present and valid for all transactions. While not fool proof, these industry standard measures have proven to greatly reduce fraud.

2. All campaigns must employ the use of geo-location. Internet visitors with foreign IP addresses must be required to provide proof of eligibility before they can proceed to the donate page.

3. Greater transparency is essential. In an era when robo-donations present a real threat to the integrity of our campaign finance system, relics of the distant past, the “Pass-the-Hat”Rule and the $200 threshold for full disclosure, should be totally dissolved for online donations. This would not significantly increase the burden on the campaigns as they already collect the identifying information of their donors through the use of sophisticated technology. 
 
4. All campaigns must retain the IP addresses for all their online donors and make those IP addresses, along with the pertinent donor information, available to the FEC for audit if fraud is suspected.
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I actually find this interesting and while they (GAI) used Pres. Obama and his campain prominently in the story it is clear that many political campains may have or still are engaged in this.  Its a bit frightening if you step back and consider that funding from overseas which is not being verified could be supporting campains. 
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And that is what has me so disillusioned with both major parties, lilly.

I just don't feel that the constituents are cared for anymore.  It's all about pleasing the special interests, and then have them donate money at election time to help convince the constituents that they should be reelected......and we have a pattern of falling right into that act.

The representatives care more about their constituents the closer they are to their constituents.

I know my Mayor and all the members of the City Council, and they know me.  If I have a concern on the local level I can pick up the phone and talk to a director of the department in the city, the City Manager, or the Mayor / Council Members.  It is very easy to get my concerns addressed.

At the county level I know a few people, and have had LESS luck in getting my concerns addressed.

At the State level I have met my State Rep and Senator, and they wave when they see me, and I may even get a reply to an email I sent them, but certainly getting things done is much more difficult.

At the Federal level I have met the Honorable John Dingell on any number of occasions (I am SO glad he will no longer be our Representative), but when I talked to his local mouth piece or sent him letters I only got replies that were pre-canned, and did NOTHING to redress my concerns.

To me the solution to the issue is keep as many decisions at the local level - or at least the lowest level that is economically feasible as possible.

Another solution is term limits - don't let them get entrenched in politics too long like the honorable John Dingell.   However - this solution doesn't seem to be working so well for Senator Richardville.  The downside of that is the career after politics is lobbying, so the politicians are still currying favor to line up their next job.
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