Help me understand this argument. There seems to be nothing but histrionics, IMO.
Everyone (even the NRA) agrees that making stricter background checks is a good thing (I'm not sure how you get around the legalities of HIPPA but we will see).
There seems to be a consensus that closing the loopholes of gun shows and individual sales is a good thing and could be done. (meaning only purchase from a listened firearms dealer).
Doesn't this mean we have common ground?
What I don't get is the misunderstanding or intentional misrepresentation of "facts".
Yes, we have weapons in America. We have lots of weapons to be fair. But, according to the United Nations we rank 28th in the list of countires in terms of murder rate with weapons. Our own FBI indicates murder has gone down (per capita) since 1980 and the CDC ranks murder as the 15th likely cause of death.
According to the FBI, violent crime has also been on a downword trend since 1997.
While I dislike criminal behavior in general it would seem with all the "weapons" on the streets we act pretty civil as a society. I mean, there are 27 countries with a higher rate of murder than America and even the UK has a higher rate of violent crime (yes, I know they include crimes we don't but you have to use the statistics at hand and not "cherry pick" what suits your agenda).
When did we become a society that is so willing to forget the Constitution?
I think this argument is not so much about "weapons" but about political philosophy.
If it were just about logically looking at the impact of weapons on our society, then I do not believe we would be having this discussion. Instead we would be talking about how do we find preventative measures to end the 55% of gun deaths that are suicides.
We would also highlight the fact that of the total number of "gun deaths" in America includes not only those tragic suicides but also "justifiable" homicides (Police or private citizens) resulting from the commission of a crime.
I love statistics and although I know not everyone does the truth is that numbers don't lie. I hope that the Vice-President's Commission honestly spends time looking at and dissecting the numbers prior to "reacting". If they don't, IMO, there will be unintended consequences that could be horrific.
If anyone is truly interested in just looking at "facts" without the emotional agenda a nice "unbiased" place to look is statista. They are a partner of Dow-Jones and are used by many people in grant writing. The statistics they produce are widely accepted by both State and Federal auditors for grant compliance.
Until folks honestly look at what is behind the "curtain" this, IMO, has become a circular argument. http://www.statista.com/statistics/195331/number-of-murders-in-the-us-by-state/