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Republican Rewrites History - We're Not The Racists!
« on: April 15, 2013, 02:39:22 AM »

"Give Rand Paul some credit for attempting to do what several decades of elections have shown is a tall order: Get African-Americans to vote Republican. But in order to make his point today at Howard University, he asked the crowd to not only look past his own brief opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1964, but to willfully ignore the fact that the law fundamentally remade American political parties to the point that they bear little resemblance to their 1950s versions."*

How do Republicans court black voters? Well, according to a Rand Paul Speech at Howard University...lie to them about the GOP's history, as well as your own. He blamed Democrats for nearly every civil rights violation against black people in the United States, and seemed to forget his own brush with preserving racism.

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Re: Republican Rewrites History - We're Not The Racists!
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2013, 02:40:06 AM »

Civil Rights: Rand Paul's 'Whites Only' Lunch Counters, Tea-Party GOP Racism

Civil Rights: Rand Paul's 'Whites Only' Lunch Counters, Tea-Party GOP Racism
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Re: Republican Rewrites History - We're Not The Racists!
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2013, 10:49:02 PM »

Jon Stewart Debunk's Rand Paul's Claim That It's Democrats Who are Racist

Jon Stewart Debunk's Rand Paul's Claim That It's Democrats Who are Racist
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Re: Republican Rewrites History - We're Not The Racists!
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2013, 10:50:14 PM »

Issue of Race: The GOP's Learning Curve is Plummeting in Reverse (1/2)


Issue of Race: The GOP's Learning Curve is Plummeting in Reverse (2/2)
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A non-response doesn't mean you've won, it merely means the obnoxious, illiterate, right-wing morons have taken too much of my time already.

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Re: Republican Rewrites History - We're Not The Racists!
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2013, 11:01:05 PM »

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Re: Republican Rewrites History - We're Not The Racists!
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2013, 12:41:52 AM »

Has anyone ever heard of a Democrat named George Wallace?
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Re: Republican Rewrites History - We're Not The Racists!
« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2013, 12:48:44 AM »

Has anyone ever heard of a Democrat named George Wallace?
Old news...but Southern Dems are DINO's...D's in name only...Republicans in disguise.
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Willful ignorance, PaTROLLing, bullying, dishonesty, and hypocrisy are among the traits that are common amongst those that espouse the Republican/Conservative/Tea Party ideology.

A non-response doesn't mean you've won, it merely means the obnoxious, illiterate, right-wing morons have taken too much of my time already.

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Re: Republican Rewrites History - We're Not The Racists!
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2013, 12:53:52 AM »

So now Republican's are the only racist. Your bias is starting to show.
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Re: Republican Rewrites History - We're Not The Racists!
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2013, 01:05:41 AM »

So now Republican's are the only racist. Your bias is starting to show.
What is it with Righties and their poor reading comprehension skills?

Your charge against the D wasn't denied...only that, like many examples produced by the right, your offering was history and that Southern D's are well known for aligning themselves with the Republicans...I simply don't consider them to be true D's.

I cannot deny my bias...I cannot stand anyone on the right...they're a waste of good oxygen.
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A non-response doesn't mean you've won, it merely means the obnoxious, illiterate, right-wing morons have taken too much of my time already.

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Re: Republican Rewrites History - We're Not The Racists!
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2013, 01:14:33 AM »

So are southern Dems racist?
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Re: Republican Rewrites History - We're Not The Racists!
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2013, 08:23:26 AM »

What is really going on in this post is a partisan "leftist" trying to rewrite History.

The Left has a fiction going that Republicans are Racist - and the Democrats are the Party of the minorities.

In reality it was the first Republican President - Lincoln that fought to free the slaves.

In the 1964 Civil Rights Act the Republicans overwhelmingly voted for it - the Democrats less so.

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By party
The original House version:[16]
Democratic Party: 152–96   (61–39%)
Republican Party: 138–34   (80–20%)
Cloture in the Senate:[17]
Democratic Party: 44–23   (66–34%)
Republican Party: 27–6   (82–18%)
The Senate version:[16]
Democratic Party: 46–21   (69–31%)
Republican Party: 27–6   (82–18%)
The Senate version, voted on by the House:[16]
Democratic Party: 153–91   (63–37%)
Republican Party: 136–35   (80–20%)


Civil Rights Act of 1957

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Civil Rights Act of 1957
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The Civil Rights Act of 1957, Pub.L. 85–315, 71 Stat. 634, enacted September 9, 1957, primarily a voting rights bill, was the first civil rights legislation enacted by Congress in the United States since Reconstruction following the American Civil War.
Following the historic US Supreme Court ruling in Brown v. Board of Education (1954), which eventually led to the integration of public schools, Southern whites in Virginia began a "Massive Resistance". Violence against blacks rose there and in other states, as in Little Rock, Arkansas, where that year President Dwight D. Eisenhower had ordered in federal troops to protect nine children integrating a public school, the first time the federal government had sent troops to the South since Reconstruction.[1] There had been continued physical assaults against suspected activists and bombings of schools and churches in the South. The administration of Eisenhower proposed legislation to protect the right to vote by African Americans.
Democratic Senator Strom Thurmond of South Carolina, an ardent segregationist, sustained the longest one-person filibuster in history in an attempt to keep the bill from becoming law. His one-man filibuster lasted 24 hours and 18 minutes; he began with readings of every state's election laws in alphabetical order. Thurmond later read from the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, and George Washington's Farewell Address. His speech set the record for a Senate filibuster.[2] The bill passed the House with a vote of 285 to 126 (Republicans 167-19 for, Democrats 118-107 for) [3] and the Senate 72 to 18 (Republicans 43-0 for, Democrats 29-18 for).[4] President Eisenhower signed it on September 9, 1957.


Once again you see the Republicans were overwhelmingly in favor - while the Democrats actually tried to kill the bill with a filibuster.



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By BRUCE BARTLETT

John McCain is scheduled to address the NAACP's annual convention in Cincinnati, Ohio today. Although he is unlikely to gain many black votes this year, he should use the occasion to increase Republican efforts to reach out to African-Americans. He can start by setting the record straight on the records of the two parties on race.

Everyone knows this, but it's worth repeating: The Republican Party is the party of Abraham Lincoln and was established in 1854 to block the expansion of slavery. The Democratic Party was the party of slavery: Its two founders, Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson, owned large numbers of slaves, and every party platform before the Civil War defended the institution unequivocally.

After the war, it was the Republican Party that rammed through the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments to the Constitution over Democratic opposition. Republicans also enacted a series of civil-rights laws that culminated in the Civil Rights Act of 1875, which basically did what the Civil Rights Act of 1964 accomplished.

Unfortunately, the Supreme Court struck down the Civil Rights Act of 1875, as well as a number of other civil-rights measures enacted by Republicans to protect the freed slaves. In Plessy v. Ferguson (1896), the court gave constitutional cover to segregation, effectively prohibiting federal efforts to tackle racial inequality until Brown v. Board of Education in 1954. And any federal civil-rights laws left on the books were repealed by Democrats once they got control of Congress and the White House in 1893.

Nevertheless, Republicans continued to make strenuous efforts to aid African-Americans. In 1890, they passed a force bill in the House of Representatives to send federal troops into the South to protect the voting rights of African-Americans. These rights were being violated everywhere in that region by laws, practices and violence perpetrated by the Ku Klux Klan and similar groups allied with the Democratic Party.

In 1900 (under President McKinley) and again in 1922 (under Harding), Republicans tried to enact an antilynching law. Coolidge asked for legislation again in his 1923 State of the Union message. Unfortunately, Southern Democrats in the Senate routinely filibustered every Republican effort to aid African-Americans.

Even Franklin Roosevelt wouldn't challenge the Senate's Southern caucus. Despite a landslide re-election victory in 1936, including overwhelming majorities in every Southern state, he refused to lend any support to another antilynching bill. Nor would he end the segregation of the armed forces established by Democrat Woodrow Wilson during World War I.

While Harry Truman deserves great credit for ending racial segregation in the military and the civil service, his efforts to pass civil-rights legislation also died from Southern Democratic opposition despite strong support from Republicans, who controlled Congress in 1947 and 1948. This makes Dwight Eisenhower's success in passing civil rights bills in 1957 and 1960 all the more remarkable, since Democrats then controlled both Houses of Congress.

Lyndon Johnson consistently opposed civil-rights legislation while he was in Congress, but as president worked hard to pass the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Neither would have passed without the strong support of congressional Republicans, who provided the margin of victory.

Richard Nixon is said to have developed a "Southern strategy" of using racial code words like "law and order" to gain votes in the South. Yet he did more to desegregate southern schools than any president in history. Nixon also created affirmative action to help break the power of racist labor unions, and minority set-asides for government contracts to aid black entrepreneurs.

Historically speaking, the Republican Party has a far better record on race than the Democrats. Sen. McCain should not be shy about saying so. He should explain that African-Americans will be much better off in the long run if they are receptive to candidates of both parties instead of being virtual captives of only one, which is then free to take them for granted.


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SO - who is rewriting HISTORY that the Democrats are the party of minorities?  Clearly History says that the Democratic Party is the party of slavery and racism.

Of course some people get all of their information from Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow and other propaganda sources.  They don't actually study history or understand history. 

So you can believe that Republicans want to disenfranchise minorities from voting, or you can study history and realize that is not true.

People like that start stupid threads like this.
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Re: Republican Rewrites History - We're Not The Racists!
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2013, 09:09:52 AM »

It appears that some TYT viewers need to study American history.  I would recommend that you start with the reconstruction and redemption of the south around 1870.





First black Senator and Representatives: Sen. Hiram Revels (R-MS), Rep. Benjamin S. Turner (R-AL), Robert DeLarge (R-SC), Josiah Walls (R-FL), Jefferson Long (R-GA), Joseph Rainey and Robert B. Elliott (R-SC)
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Re: Republican Rewrites History - We're Not The Racists!
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2013, 10:40:15 AM »

What is really going on in this post is a partisan "leftist" trying to rewrite History.

The Left has a fiction going that Republicans are Racist - and the Democrats are the Party of the minorities.

In reality it was the first Republican President - Lincoln that fought to free the slaves.

In the 1964 Civil Rights Act the Republicans overwhelmingly voted for it - the Democrats less so.

Civil Rights Act of 1957

Once again you see the Republicans were overwhelmingly in favor - while the Democrats actually tried to kill the bill with a filibuster.



http://online.wsj.com/article/SB121617172687056531.html


SO - who is rewriting HISTORY that the Democrats are the party of minorities?  Clearly History says that the Democratic Party is the party of slavery and racism.

Of course some people get all of their information from Chris Matthews and Rachel Maddow and other propaganda sources.  They don't actually study history or understand history. 

So you can believe that Republicans want to disenfranchise minorities from voting, or you can study history and realize that is not true.

People like that start stupid threads like this.


I don't get your reasoning.  how are "leftists" rewriting history?  As you said about the far past is unassumingly true.  That doesn't mean that it is STILL true today.  Just because the R's did vote pro civil rights far in the past doesn't in any way mean that the current R party is the exact same party now as then.

Just because the people of the parties in power long ago did whatever doesn't follow to meaning that the current ones in power believe the same.

Although it was a good try at spinning it to falsity.
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Re: Republican Rewrites History - We're Not The Racists!
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2013, 10:49:42 AM »

I don't get your reasoning.  how are "leftists" rewriting history?  As you said about the far past is unassumingly true.  That doesn't mean that it is STILL true today.  Just because the R's did vote pro civil rights far in the past doesn't in any way mean that the current R party is the exact same party now as then.

Just because the people of the parties in power long ago did whatever doesn't follow to meaning that the current ones in power believe the same.

Although it was a good try at spinning it to falsity.

Duck,

I could continue to cite hard evidence that the Republican Party has been pro-minority and pro-civil rights, and cases where the Democratic Party was not.

However, I will give you a chance to cite cases where the Republican Party has been Racist.

Go for it.  Specific legislation and cases where the PARTY was anti-minority, anti-civil rights, and racist.

History says the Republican Party has been the opposite - and you say giving the facts of History are "spinning it to falsify."

Please show me where that is true.
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Re: Republican Rewrites History - We're Not The Racists!
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2013, 10:52:53 AM »

Duck,

I could continue to cite hard evidence that the Republican Party has been pro-minority and pro-civil rights, and cases where the Democratic Party was not.

However, I will give you a chance to cite cases where the Republican Party has been Racist.

Go for it.  Specific legislation and cases where the PARTY was anti-minority, anti-civil rights, and racist.

History says the Republican Party has been the opposite - and you say giving the facts of History are "spinning it to falsify."

Please show me where that is true.

Okay, you win, all minorities vote R because they all know that R's are the only party that cares about them because of what they did 100 years ago and not today.  Got it.
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