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Re: Immigration
« Reply #30 on: June 05, 2013, 09:15:09 PM »

Brilliant idea! why don't we bring the drug wars farther north? Kidnappings for ransom is just what we need to keep us on our toes.
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Re: Immigration
« Reply #31 on: June 05, 2013, 09:23:23 PM »

Brilliant idea! why don't we bring the drug wars farther north? Kidnappings for ransom is just what we need to keep us on our toes.

Uhhhhh, hate to tell you but that is already happening.

By the way - the drug wars are just ONE good reason to secure the border.  There are others.

What has this administration done to combat the cartels?  They ARMED them.
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Re: Immigration
« Reply #32 on: June 05, 2013, 09:28:22 PM »

Well, nobody was convicted of that. Nothing to see here, move on , move on.
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Re: Immigration
« Reply #33 on: June 17, 2013, 07:59:54 AM »

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« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2013, 10:32:01 AM »

 Published on Jun 21, 2013

"The prospects for Senate approval of a broad overhaul of the nation's immigration laws improved on Thursday after two Senate Republicans worked out a deal on a plan to strengthen border security with the bipartisan group of eight senators that drafted the original bill, raising hopes that the new agreement could build Republican support for the immigration legislation."*

Some Republican senators have come to a conclusion...if they keep opposing immigration reform, they'll lose elections. So now the Senate has an immigration deal...but it looks ridiculous, expensive, and still very tough on immigrants.

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No emails, no warnings, no communication whatsoever...just that ban

May be what happened to the other libs as well.

I guess disabling the report to admin link only on the lib side was indicative of the slanted games they play.

Enjoy your spoon-fed Faux News type right-wing echo-chamber.

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This is the only way to answer some of the questions posed:

1) I did nothing to warrant the banishment, it's political.

2) It's the router that's blocked but considering all the nonsense right-wing games being played by those running the site...it's just not worth it to bypass the banishment block.

3) The moron stalkers from MT contemplating a visit will be considered a threat and can expect to have a bad day if they act upon those idiotic thoughts.

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Re: Immigration
« Reply #35 on: July 12, 2013, 11:55:49 AM »

It appears that the average lifetime fiscal deficit  would be around $592,000 for each adult amnesty recipient.

11,000,000 illegal immigrants multiplied $592,000 by equals 6,512,000,000,000 U.S. dollars.   


Amnesty's price: $12,433 for every legalized immigrant household

more at:  http://washingtonexaminer.com/article/2532974#.UeAGOiDEkr8.twitter

A fight has erupted over the costs of granting amnesty to the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in America, with the White House claiming the cash benefits to the Treasury are huge and will slash the deficit, and critics showing it will cost Americans more and increase the deficit.

The White House late Thursday dispatched an email to President Obama's campaign supporters that provided a video claiming that immigration reform will result in a 5.4 percent growth in GDP as "highly skilled" workers and "entrepreneurs" add to the country's economic base. No mention was made of low-skilled workers, the bulk of illegal immigrants in the country.

"Here's one of the best things about immigration reform: It's going to make our economy a lot stronger," said the White House. "Not enough people are talking about the economic benefits of immigration reform, but it's exactly the conversation that will help us win the national debate on this issue."

Critics are pushing back hard, led by the Heritage Foundation. Among the key points: reform supporters suggest that immigrants will suddenly be paying taxes when they become legal, but that's already happening.

Heritage is highlighting a chart that details the taxes paid and government services received by all Americans, including illegal immigrants. It shows that after amnesty, immigrants will cost governments $12,433 in benefits over the taxes they pay per year. Over a lifetime of an adult illegal granted amnesty, the difference between benefits received and taxes paid would be a cost to taxpayers of $592,000.

Buried in a report from Robert Rector, the conservative foundation's authority on poverty, welfare programs and immigration, the chart details taxes paid and benefits received by households headed by an illegal immigrant and how that will change after amnesty is granted.

The bottom line: Households of those granted amnesty will pay $15,071 in taxes and receive benefits of $27,504, a difference of $12,433 covered by taxpayers.
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« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2013, 10:33:13 PM »

National ICE Council president Chris Crane describes ICE officers being ordered to release violent illegal immigrants.  He describes an illegal child rape suspect that ICE could not touch because he claimed "dreamer" status.

Violent criminals released by ICE if they are ‘Obama Dreamers’ [VIDEO]

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/05/07/violent-criminals-released-by-ice-if-they-are-obama-dreamers-video

In part three of three of his six-part interview with The Daily Caller, National ICE Council president Chris Crane explained what President Obama’s actions on immigration and blind eye to illegal immigration has made it nearly impossible for ICE agents to enforce the law.

“We can’t have Presidents of the United States picking and choosing which laws will and will not be enforced.” Crane said.

Crane went on to explain how President Obama’s de facto repeal of immigration enforcement has led to serious and dangerous criminals being set free. “What the Obama Administration has ICE agents now doing is we now go into jails and prisons looking for illegal aliens inside of those facilities who have committed and been convicted of crimes. So we apply the Dream Act not to kids, in schools, but to adult inmates and have to ask them basically ‘Do you qualify for President Obama’s Dream Act?’ When they tell us ‘Yes we qualify’ we can’t even require them to give us any kind of proof, a transcript, or anything like that. We can’t detain them for investigation to substantiate the claims, we simply have to release them to the street. They walk out the back door of the jail as ‘Dreamers.’ There is nothing we can do about that.

Crane then related a story of a man who was detained for assaulting a family member, injured two ICE officers during his arrest and, despite the serious nature of his crime, was released because ICE managers informed the arresting officers that ‘He’s an Obama Dreamer, release him.’ Crane went on to explain “No investigation, no criminal charges, no consideration of the public safety threat. He’s an Obama Dreamer, let him go, and that’s a scary situation.”
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« Reply #37 on: July 22, 2013, 10:57:08 PM »



13-year-old girl raped by more than a dozen illegal aliens in Texas

http://www.examiner.com/article/more-than-a-dozen-illegal-aliens-gang-raped-13-year-old-girl-texas

On Wednesday, police in Austin arrested two Mexican nationals who reportedly participated in the gang-rape of a 13-year-old girl on June 29.

The girl, a runaway, who lives at the Settlement Home for Children, was picked up by three Latino men and driven to the Avalon Arms apartments, where she was raped by a large group of men for several hours, according to police.

As many as 13 men took turns sexually assaulting the girl. Many cheered and filmed the sickening crime on their cell phones, according to court documents.

Juan Lozano Ortega, 25, and Edgar Gerardo Guzman Perez, 26, have been charged with aggravated sexual assault of a child. Both are currently being held in the Travis County Jail on immigration detainers.
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« Reply #38 on: July 24, 2013, 01:59:02 PM »

37 strikes and you are out.

I was surprised to learn that 225,390 convicted criminal aliens were deported last year by ICE.  It is amazing the large number criminal aliens running around these United States.


U.S. Border Patrol Deporting Illegal Alien with 37 Criminal Convictions in USA

more at: http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/us-border-patrol-deporting-illegal-alien-37-criminal-convictions-usa#sthash.FjtSrPPq.dpuf

U.S. Border Patrol agents say they have detained an illegal alien who's racked up 37 criminal convictions in the United States.

"Due to the suspect’s numerous criminal convictions, he was processed for an Administrative Removal and will be removed to Mexico," said the announcement from Customs and Border Patrol.

Police in Rochester, N.Y. arrested the man on Saturday, July 20. They called the Border Patrol for assistance after the suspect gave three different names to a Rochester police officer.

Agents determined that the suspect was in the United States illegally, and a check of the database showed that he has 37 convictions, ranging from misdemeanors to felonies, on charges such as narcotics violations, assault on a federal officer, burglary and robbery.

A spokesman for the Buffalo CBP sector told CNSNews.com that the suspect's first conviction came in 1982; the most recent was in 2007. Border Patrol says it first learned of the man on Saturday.

Two years ago, the Obama administration's Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency (ICE) announced that it would focus its enforcement efforts on finding and removing illegal aliens who have broken criminal laws in this country.

Under the new policy, federal agents may issue detainers (requests to assume custody of an illegal alien) only for those convicted or charged with a felony; those with three or more misdemeanor convictions, excluding traffic offenses and other minor crimes; and those whose misdemeanors are more serious, such as offenses involving violence or driving under the influence.
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Re: Immigration
« Reply #39 on: July 24, 2013, 04:59:31 PM »

Lets face it.  99% of immigrants are people we don't want.  They are either criminal illegals crossing from Mexico or worst yet, muslims from the mid-east we allow to come in even though they hate us.
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« Reply #40 on: July 24, 2013, 05:02:57 PM »

Lets face it.  99% of immigrants are people we don't want.  They are either criminal illegals crossing from Mexico or worst yet, muslims from the mid-east we allow to come in even though they hate us.

I hope you are wrong.

I remember reading about the waves of immigrants no one wanted in the past.

The Irish, the Italians, etc etc etc.
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« Reply #41 on: July 24, 2013, 10:31:56 PM »

Lets face it.  99% of immigrants are people we don't want.  They are either criminal illegals crossing from Mexico or worst yet, muslims from the mid-east we allow to come in even though they hate us.

The numbers that I have seen from ICE show about 60% illegals come across the border directly.  The other 40% illegals are visitors that come to our interior and overstay their visas.
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« Reply #42 on: July 31, 2013, 08:31:15 PM »

The green paint vandal that has been painting national landmarks appears to be an immigrant that overstayed her visa.

Woman charged with vandalism had can with green paint





WASHINGTON - A woman charged with defacing the Washington National Cathedral was carrying what appeared to be a soda can containing green paint when she was arrested, and she has been linked to at least four other incidents of vandalism, including at the Lincoln Memorial, according to prosecutors and court documents.

Jiamei Tian, 58, appeared in D.C. Superior Court Tuesday alongside a Mandarin translator.

The woman was arrested Monday at the cathedral, where she is accused of using green paint to deface an organ and decorative woodwork in two separate chapels.

She's been charged with defacing and destroying private property. A judge on Tuesday ordered her held without bond.

Authorities believe the green paint vandalism was part of a pattern of similar acts. Green paint was discovered splattered onto the Lincoln Memorial early Friday morning, and it was also reported Friday on a statue of Joseph Henry -- the Smithsonian's first secretary -- outside the Smithsonian headquarters on the National Mall.

The woman, who has a Chinese passport, arrived in Washington a few days ago and was traveling on an expired visa, prosecutors said. Police said she had no fixed address but that she told officers she lived in Los Angeles.
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Re: Immigration
« Reply #43 on: July 31, 2013, 08:48:18 PM »

Imagine that - another illegal trying to win the hearts of the US...

Living and traveling freely -

How do you think they'd handle her back in China???
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« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2013, 10:54:26 PM »

Another classic case of the liberals thinking it's great to allow people into the United States that hate us and try to destroy our way of life.
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