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« on: November 08, 2014, 10:05:41 PM »

It appears the grand jury will release its decision shortly.

Ferguson Waits Uneasily for Grand Jury’s Decision



FERGUSON, Mo. — Walk down West Florissant Avenue, and the scars of the summer are still there. The door and display window of a beauty supply store remain covered with plywood; a glued-up poster, “Beauty Town Is Back,” is the one hopeful sign of the life inside. A cellphone store, too, still has the plywood up from when riots and confrontations with the police shook this neighborhood. And the Family of Faith Baptist Church uses its billboard to proclaim, “Join us as we pray for peace.”

But few are expecting peace as this St. Louis suburb prepares for a grand jury decision, expected in the next few weeks, on whether to indict the police officer who fatally shot an unarmed black man in August, inciting months of protests and putting Ferguson at the center of a national debate over the police and race.

Here, where heavily fortified police officers faced the demonstrators and the nights sometimes turned violent, even those shopkeepers who put in new windows are boarding up again.

“I hate this,” said Dan McMullen, the president of Solo Insurance Services, as he sat behind his desk on Thursday. During the course of a 20-minute conversation, his phone did not ring; no customers walked through the door. “Business is terrible,” he lamented. “The customers don’t want to come here anymore. We all know the grand jury is going to come back in the next couple of weeks, and everyone knows there won’t be an indictment. This time around will be a lot more violent.”

more at:  http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/08/us/ferguson-missouri.html
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2014, 10:11:30 PM »

It appears that Lesley McSpadden, Michael Brown's mother, could be charged with a number of felonies.


Michael Brown's Mother Named As Robbery Attacker

A police report detailing a fight last month between members of Michael Brown’s family over the sale of commemorative t-shirts identifies the late teenager’s mother as one of the “attackers” who beat and robbed vendors selling the merchandise from a tent in a Ferguson, Missouri parking lot.

A copy of the Ferguson Police Department report was provided yesterday by city attorney Stephanie Karr. When TSG requested the document two weeks ago, Karr noted that Brown’s mother, Lesley McSpadden, was “described in the report” and had “specifically requested that the report be withheld from the media.”

Karr added, “Knowing this, do you still want a copy of the report?”

The violent October 18 ransacking--which police have classified as felony armed robbery--remains under active investigation, said Karr. “No charges have been filed yet and no decision about charges will be made until the investigation is concluded,” the lawyer told TSG yesterday.

The police probe of the attack, which left one victim hospitalized, is occurring at the same time a grand jury is weighing possible criminal charges against the Ferguson cop who shot the unarmed Brown during an August confrontation.

According to the report, Pearlie Gordon, 54, and two men were selling “Justice for Mike Brown” merchandise on a Saturday afternoon when “a large group of about 20-30 subjects ‘jumped out of vehicles and rushed them.’” Gordon is the mother-in-law of Michael Brown Sr., McSpadden's ex-husband.


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/Michael-Brown-family-merchandise-brawl-687543
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2014, 10:12:58 PM »

Racist cops.....

Now they are framing the mom.

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Re: Ferguson, Missouri
« Reply #3 on: November 08, 2014, 10:27:24 PM »

 Dr. King would be so proud...   8*

Vigilante justice is what they used to decry isn't it?
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2014, 11:06:40 PM »

Probably just wanted a 'piece of the pie'..........
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2014, 11:33:17 PM »



The police report is available on the TSG site that I linked.

It details that the mother and her mom (grandmother) went after the father's mother-inlaw (grandmother?).   It appears to be a family brawl with the focus on the shirts and money.

Mom may be a plumber because it appears that she drives around with lead pipe.

A witness told the police that she took a video.
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2014, 11:37:52 PM »

I prefer copper or that new Plastic Stuff myself for plumbing jobs myself.

Isn't lead outlawed on a number of levels?
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2014, 07:44:42 AM »

I'm back down in the area again and there is a lot of tension mounting in anticipation of the grand jury statement.  Most will say that some of the details that have leaked out of the court room paints a light that what the officer did was just, but that doesn't appear to be sinking in with some.

Pretty sure this ain't gonna be pretty, but maybe this colder weather will slow emotion down.
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2014, 09:25:26 AM »

I really feel sorry for the small business owners in that area.  The economy really sucks as it is, and you add this on top of it, and it will destroy all but the strongest of businesses. 

It's amazing what the liberal, animalistic mentality of a few racist people (Obaaaaaaaama, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, et al) can do to stir up the population.  They are purposely destroying a community in order to make themselves look good.  Makes me sick.

People have already been hurt over this, and there's more to come.  Lives may very well be lost.

And the blame lies SOLELY on the racist bastards that I mentioned earlier.  Instead of instigating violence and revenge, they should be encouraging civility, and calmness in a highly energized community.

The blood will be on their hands.
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2014, 09:39:39 AM »

The sad thing is too Cowboy that the actual City of Ferguson is not what the media has tried to make it appear as.  It is not a ghetto ridden town at all, and to your point there most likely will be some nice small businesses destroyed once the verdict comes out.  Jackson and Sharpton are the two main culprits I see visiting the area that are perpetuating the racism into this particular case. 
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2014, 09:54:50 AM »

I hope no one shows up to the next riot that they put on.

I really do.

The Grand Jury convened.

They reviewed all the evidence.

I sure hope they trust that process that the findings they put forth.

This is supposed to be a judge, panel of Citizens without bias, and an elected official (prosecutor) or their representative presenting evidence to see if convictions should be handed down.

I hope they trust their elected officials and their citizens and judges to do the right thing.
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2014, 10:20:18 AM »

Some will, some won't........that's why it's called America.  There will always be a divide on racism in this country.
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2014, 10:24:48 AM »

Some will, some won't........that's why it's called America.  There will always be a divide on racism in this country.

Absloutlely and best not to get in the middle of that divide.... ;D
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Re: Ferguson, Missouri
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2014, 10:30:10 AM »

Yup.....the topic carries the same emotion as abortion rights, gun rights, decriminalization of pot, and religion.

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Re: Ferguson, Missouri
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2014, 10:35:07 AM »

Even more so with the outside agitation, spilling over to violence, pillage and plunder.  Be assured though, that the govrnment will rebuild everything, always does.
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