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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #225 on: May 13, 2015, 09:06:53 PM »

LOL  it was just a thought -    You took it literal...   and I see in the other thread even started down that road of name calling. 

MN's post was humorous not trolling - not sure how you read it - but I prefer the glass half full version instead of the other.
Funny how quick you are to defend those on your side of the political divide.

But I'm a little surprised you haven't jumped in with both feet to defend SCF.

Especially since I'm pretty sure you're the grand dragon of the KKK in the area.  ;)

Oh no...my assertion may trigger you to lock your topic...or the other right-wing racist members (AKA the micro-penis club) may join the fray.
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No emails, no warnings, no communication whatsoever...just that ban

May be what happened to the other libs as well.

I guess disabling the report to admin link only on the lib side was indicative of the slanted games they play.

Enjoy your spoon-fed Faux News type right-wing echo-chamber.

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This is the only way to answer some of the questions posed:

1) I did nothing to warrant the banishment, it's political.

2) It's the router that's blocked but considering all the nonsense right-wing games being played by those running the site...it's just not worth it to bypass the banishment block.

3) The moron stalkers from MT contemplating a visit will be considered a threat and can expect to have a bad day if they act upon those idiotic thoughts.

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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #226 on: May 13, 2015, 09:48:54 PM »

see now that is some dry humor - but I get it... LOL
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #227 on: May 13, 2015, 09:59:28 PM »

On a more serious note:

I was driving and listened to a CNN interview of the family of the young girl killed in the Boston terror attack after the death penalty phase of the trial was left to the jury.

The female interviewer chose to not name the terrorist and instead insisted that we remember the name of the victim(s) who died.  (29-year-old Krystle Campbell, 8-year-old Martin Richard and 23-year-old Lu Lingzi)

I like the idea of not putting the name of terrorist and mass murderers in the news - as sometime that is what they want - infamy.

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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #228 on: May 13, 2015, 10:05:58 PM »

Nice to know you are the KKK go to for the area.  I guess I can quit going to Indiana for meetings now..... ;D

I see Fry is back to his penile fixation.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #229 on: May 13, 2015, 10:21:51 PM »

We also tested the recent conspiracy theory that the federal government is trying to take over Texas- 32% of Republican primary voters buy into it compared to 40% who don't. Scott Walker leads the field among those who believe in the Texas conspiracy at 23% to 18% for Ted Cruz, 13% each for Marco Rubio and Mike Huckabee, and 10% for Ben Carson. Jeb Bush leads among voters who don't buy into it at 17% but since he only gets 6% with those who do his overall standing remains somewhat weak.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/05/walker-still-leads-nationally-clinton-over-60.html

As far as loony toon conspiracy theories go, that one is way out there in toon land.  I find it shocking that so many - 32% of republican primary voters - thinks it is real. 

Aside from how completely nutty it is, don't they realize that Texas ALREADY IS a part of the Untied States and the United States isn't taking over which is a part of it already?  WOW!
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #230 on: May 14, 2015, 08:09:17 AM »

We also tested the recent conspiracy theory that the federal government is trying to take over Texas- 32% of Republican primary voters buy into it compared to 40% who don't. Scott Walker leads the field among those who believe in the Texas conspiracy at 23% to 18% for Ted Cruz, 13% each for Marco Rubio and Mike Huckabee, and 10% for Ben Carson. Jeb Bush leads among voters who don't buy into it at 17% but since he only gets 6% with those who do his overall standing remains somewhat weak.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/05/walker-still-leads-nationally-clinton-over-60.html

As far as loony toon conspiracy theories go, that one is way out there in toon land.  I find it shocking that so many - 32% of republican primary voters - thinks it is real. 

Aside from how completely nutty it is, don't they realize that Texas ALREADY IS a part of the Untied States and the United States isn't taking over which is a part of it already?  WOW!


While it makes good news for the left wingnut media -   It would be interesting to hear how the question was worded...

Like:  Do you think the states should have the right to determine (pick any subject)

and the socialist interpretation would be be they are trying to stop the nationalizing of all power and services... 

You're poll lost all credibility with that silly question - when they didn't ask one about the "heir apparent" on the other side - showing their bias
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #231 on: May 14, 2015, 09:02:08 AM »

While it makes good news for the left wingnut media -   It would be interesting to hear how the question was worded...

Like:  Do you think the states should have the right to determine (pick any subject)

and the socialist interpretation would be be they are trying to stop the nationalizing of all power and services... 

You're Your poll lost all credibility with that silly question - when they didn't ask one about the "heir apparent" on the other side - showing their bias
Fixed it for you.

Honestly polls can't be trusted since they're so easy to manipulate to obtain the outcome the pollster is looking for.
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No emails, no warnings, no communication whatsoever...just that ban

May be what happened to the other libs as well.

I guess disabling the report to admin link only on the lib side was indicative of the slanted games they play.

Enjoy your spoon-fed Faux News type right-wing echo-chamber.

Edited to add:

This is the only way to answer some of the questions posed:

1) I did nothing to warrant the banishment, it's political.

2) It's the router that's blocked but considering all the nonsense right-wing games being played by those running the site...it's just not worth it to bypass the banishment block.

3) The moron stalkers from MT contemplating a visit will be considered a threat and can expect to have a bad day if they act upon those idiotic thoughts.

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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #232 on: May 14, 2015, 09:56:36 AM »

Fixed it for you.

Honestly polls can't be trusted since they're so easy to manipulate to obtain the outcome the pollster is looking for.

LOL  thanks...

typing with granddaughter trying to punch keys is tough

I agree about polls - as they can be set up to say what you want by the questions asked

Stick to the basics and they can be somewhat informative - but when they delve off to the silly stuff it only invites silly results.

The sources are more and more questionable - as what is the audience? (population base)  people rarely answer phones to unkown #'s,  walking around a mall asking people gets about the same results - you're limited to a small base.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #233 on: May 14, 2015, 02:49:26 PM »

While it makes good news for the left wingnut media -   


Perhaps you are unaware that Jade Helm is being pushed by the R presidential candidates (some of) and at least one R governor.  That is not the left making something up. 

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It would be interesting to hear how the question was worded...


It was there in the link.

q23 Do you think that the Government is trying to
take over Texas or not?
The Government is trying to take over Texas 32% ..
 40% The Government is not trying to take over
Texas ..............................................................
Not sure 28% ........................................................
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_National_51315.pdf

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Like:  Do you think the states should have the right to determine (pick any subject)

and the socialist interpretation would be be they are trying to stop the nationalizing of all power and services... 


Read the question.  It makes nothing up like you suggest.

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You're poll lost all credibility with that silly question - when they didn't ask one about the "heir apparent" on the other side - showing their bias


First, that is a polling company and does a lot of polls, not just his one.  Two, there were d polls in it, including Hillary.  Or are you saying that Hillary believes that Jade Helm is a take over of Texas?  Ummm, nope.

Frankly, I chose to think that the nuttiness of Jade Helm was just a few nutsy loons and Cruz and others were just... well, I am not sure why they would swallow that stupidity.  But, then if you think the same number is probably birther STILL and latched on to dozens of other fake conspiracies dreamed up by some nut or other.
But, still it amazes me that it is so large a number anyway.

I apologize to you though for insulting you for believing in it.  I had no intention to insult anyone personally at MT.  It was about the national numbers. 

Perhaps you can enlighten me how the United States can take over the United States (Texas)  It is pretty obvious to me it is already part of the U.S. and the U.S. has no need to take it over because it is already a part of it.

I guess since you defend the Jade Helm stuff I will ask also.  Why do you think it is a conspiracy now when it is something that is done frequently over the years for training.  I can remember my older brother telling me general things about them often over the last decades.  Mostly that he would be away and not able to talk for a month or whatever.  It is standard stuff, nothing new.  So, why is it suddenly a conspiracy worth defending?
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #234 on: May 14, 2015, 02:56:56 PM »

Don't recall defending anything...  just questioning why that would be a poll question to begin with?

Then followed up with why they didn't ask something just as ludicrous about the D's or Hillary in the same poll.

I did read the article - just didn't see the entire list of questions - just the ones they chose to focus on. 

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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #235 on: May 14, 2015, 03:40:11 PM »

Don't recall defending anything...  just questioning why that would be a poll question to begin with?

Then followed up with why they didn't ask something just as ludicrous about the D's or Hillary in the same poll.

I did read the article - just didn't see the entire list of questions - just the ones they chose to focus on.

Well, it still seems as defending it to me, but if you say so.

Ted Cruz, candidate for President believes it and rails against it.  The governor of Texas and I think two other states publicly think Jade Helm is a legitimate conspiracy.  It was asked because some or all of the Republican candidates for President believe it.  That makes it a legitimate question to ask. But, I am sure someone in a less right leaning poll company will certainly ask a stupid question to make you happy.

Any article I have ever read about polls only talks about a select part.  ANY.  Usually they give the link to the original poll data and questions.  Just because it is highly embarrassing to your party, that doesn't mean it isn't valid or real.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #236 on: May 14, 2015, 03:44:41 PM »

I don't recall ever hearing that question as a topic...   but then again I don't live in Texas where the Feds want to be in charge on certain issues - yet won't act on those same...   Arizona has the same issue - called border security and Immigration laws. 

Maybe that's what is meant? 

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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #237 on: May 14, 2015, 05:47:09 PM »


Maybe that's what is meant?

no, not at all.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #238 on: May 14, 2015, 06:44:12 PM »

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LANSING, MI — Michigan's Republican-led Senate on Thursday approved a plan to repeal the state's prevailing wage law, which requires union wages and benefits for workers on government-funded construction projects.

The fate of the three-bill package, now heading to the House for consideration, remains unclear.

Republican Gov. Rick Snyder has made clear he does not support efforts to repeal the 1965 law, setting up a potential showdown with the increasingly conservative Legislature.

Senate Majority Leader Arlan Meekhof, in a floor speech, said prevailing wage repeal is one of his top legislative priorities and suggested it could help state and local governments save more than $200 million a year.

"Prevailing wage has artificially raised the cost of construction for projects funded with tax dollars," he said, specifically pointing to construction of school buildings. "... I just don't think it's right that taxpayers pay more than private industry for their construction."

But prevailing wage supporters say the law guarantees fair wages for skilled trades workers, and they dispute projections of possible taxpayer savings.

"Prevailing wage works," said Sen. Rebekah Warren, D-Ann Arbor. "It has given us quality construction. It has given us quality wages for the trades people that built this state and literally continue do so everyday."

Thursday's 22-15 vote fell mostly along party lines, but a handful of Republicans — Sens. Tom Casperson of Escanaba, Mike Kowall of White Lake, Mike Nofs of Battle Creek, Tory Rocca of Sterling Heights and Dale Zorn of Ida — joined Democrats in opposing the measure.

Casperson, in a floor speech, questioned whether a repeal would actually put any money back in taxpayer pockets and suggested Thursday's vote would provide fodder for partisan attacks.

"I would implore my colleagues to ask yourselves when you're accused of supporting corporations at the expense of the working man, those that accuse us of that, are they going to be wrong?" Casperson told fellow Republicans.

A $75,000 appropriation was attached to one of the bills earlier this week in committee. The provision directs the Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs to implement and "disseminate information" about repeal, but it would also make the measure immune to referendum.

Warren proposed an amendment to remove the appropriation, but it narrowly failed 19-18.

"This appropriation is the height of political cowardice," said Sen. Curtis Hertel, D-East Lansing. "You're afraid of what the voters will do. You're afraid they will go to the ballot and vote this down."

Meekhof disputed that accusation, however, noting that companies are required to post information and legal notices at job sites.

"This appropriation is specifically for informing people what the new law is, what their abilities are, what their rights are," Meekhof said. "I reject the noting that it's for anything other."

Michigan's prevailing wage law is not directly related to the ongoing debate over long-term road funding. Many road projects utilize federal dollars, so federal wage rate requirements apply.

The Michigan law affects construction projects that utilize state funding, including school buildings. Repeal would have "an indeterminate, but likely positive, fiscal impact" on the state and local units of government, according to the non-partisan Senate Fiscal Agency.

Repeal proponents point to a 2013 report by the Anderson Economic Group, which estimated that prevailing wage costs state and local governments an extra $224 million a year on education-related construction projects between 2002 and 2011.

While several states mandate wage rates on public works projects, Michigan is one of just six that bases rates exclusively on union collective bargaining agreements, according to the Associated Builders and Contractors of Michigan.

"Michigan has been hamstrung by the prevailing wage mandate for five decades," Chris Fisher, ABC of Michigan president, said in a statement applauding the Senate vote. "... Our school districts, colleges and universities will especially benefit when costs are brought back in line with the private sector."

Prevailing wage supporters argue wage-specific studies cited by advocates are flawed and do not consider the full range of factors that can determine construction costs.

The Anderson Economic Group estimates are based on "a back-of-the-envelope calculation" based on outdated assumptions, according to a working paper by University of Utah economics professor Peter Phillips and distributed Wednesday by prevailing wage supporters.

"Lowering wages for Michigan's hard-working men and women is simply wrong," said Senate Minority Leader Jim Ananich, D-Flint.

Senate Bills 1, 2, and 3 now head to the Michigan House, where the Republican majority already has included prevailing wage repeal in a caucus action plan.


http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/index.ssf/2015/05/michigan_senate_approves_preva.html#incart_river

About time!  I hope the house passes this - and Snyder signs it!

It could get costs in line all over the State.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #239 on: May 14, 2015, 07:56:47 PM »

The governments should not be telling private companies how much to pay employees.
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