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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #240 on: May 14, 2015, 09:19:59 PM »

The governments should not be telling private companies how much to pay employees.


Let's check in to see how government mandated pay raises are working out in Seattle:

Restaurants in Seattle are booming. Amazon and other tech companies are on a hiring spree, and that's been like manna from heaven for the city's more than 4,000 eateries.

But in April, the city's minimum wage rose to $11 an hour, and it will keep rising every year to $15 an hour and beyond. Restaurants are now scrambling to figure out how they will pay.

No major city has ever seen an across-the-board 60 percent increase in its minimum wage. Restaurants employ about a quarter of Seattle's minimum wage workers. Labor typically accounts for about a third of a restaurant's costs.

Hardy says he is making adjustments: trimming staff hours, opening one hour later and closing one hour earlier. He's also considering whether to close some hours during the day.

"I'm going through the hourly sales, and if it is not making money, if it is not profitable, we are not going to do it, because we can't afford to," he says.

Hardy is a small employer, so he has a few years to figure out what to do. The $15 wage will be phased in at different rates for different size employers over the course of several years.

The biggest pressures will be on large employers, who reach $15 an hour sooner. They are the ones now making the most dramatic changes.

Bob Donegan, the president of Ivar's, which runs a chain of fish and chip shops, says the company has increased its prices. At Ivar's Salmon House, for instance, one of the company's sit-down restaurants, the price for all menu items increased 21 percent in April.

"Alaska coho that's today $34, last week would have been $28," Donegan says. "So that meal that last year cost you $100, today costs you $121."

The catch is that when diners pay the bill, they are no longer expected to leave a tip: it's included. The big price increase will allow the Salmon House to start paying a $15-an-hour minimum wage immediately, three years ahead of schedule.

"It's very early, but so far it's working OK," Donegan says.

Many restaurants in the city are watching Ivar's to see if the changes work and if they should follow suit, he says. But not every restaurant is in a position to experiment.

Ritu Shah Burnhamm, who owns a zpizza, employs 12 people. But because her business is a franchise, the city considers her a large employer. That means she has to pay $1.50 an hour more this year, $2 more next year and another $2.00 an hour more the year after.

"If you have to pay $15 an hour in 20 months, and that is the largest part of your expenses, it's a little difficult to do a business plan that makes that work," Burnham says. "I tried. Before I made my decision I tried, and I didn't see it happening."

Burnham says she didn't want to go back to working 60 or 80 hours weeks, as she did when she first opened the restaurant, just to make ends meet. So she is shutting down her business at the end of the summer.

http://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2015/05/09/405248917/seattle-restaurants-scramble-to-pay-a-higher-minimum-wage
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #241 on: May 15, 2015, 09:45:05 AM »

The governments should not be telling private companies how much to pay employees.
Problem is if governments tell the employees that they can't unionize  with the rights to strike
then tell the employers they can pay whatevever    they are playing favorites

Some seem to forget the history behind why unions were formed in the first place!
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #242 on: May 15, 2015, 09:54:24 AM »

But unions don't set wages.  They arbitrate/negotiate with management and come to some agreement.  And if the employer doesn't want to negotiate they close the doors.
That's different than the government telling companies how much they have to pay employees.
Some business owners are ruthless and will screw over employees.  I get that.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #243 on: May 15, 2015, 10:02:11 AM »

But unions don't set wages.  They arbitrate/negotiate with management and come to some agreement.  And if the employer doesn't want to negotiate they close the doors.
That's different than the government telling companies how much they have to pay employees.
Some business owners are ruthless and will screw over employees.  I get that.

You just described a Union-employer relationship that some governments have dismantled or gutted

The issue seems to be that governments can't control themselves - but seem to think they can control other things better
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Nancy Pelosi

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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #244 on: May 16, 2015, 10:11:51 PM »

I forgot as an originator of a topic I could lock down that topic. Had I been aware of that fact I would have locked down my "We're All But Done Topic" myself, before it got out of hand and the administration had to do so in response to a complaint. I won't forget again.   
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« Reply #245 on: May 16, 2015, 10:36:51 PM »

So when are you going to start up the We're all but done 2, John?

I would do it - but I don't want to steal your thunder.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #246 on: May 17, 2015, 09:56:49 AM »

That's a comforting thought.  If you didn't have friends who acted like idiots there would not have been a problem in the first place.   A complaint?  Awww, someone must be a little weak.

Give it a rest, it's getting boring.  Quit trolling for a response you aren't gonna get.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #247 on: May 17, 2015, 10:01:33 AM »

you mean this?

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« Reply #248 on: May 17, 2015, 05:25:48 PM »

Your boy Kopke brought the issue of that thread up again, so here I am! :)  Funny, you read this post, but when you claimed the word "gook" wasn't racist, and I asked you in what context would the word "gook" not be racist, you didn't manage to see that post, punk.  It's also funny how at that point none of your pals interjected on your behalf as they were so eager to do previously.

It's yesterdays laundry.  Quit trolling for a respnse because none is forthcoming.  You ain't worth the time.
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« Reply #249 on: May 17, 2015, 06:21:14 PM »

With the train wreck in Philly the talk has turned to infrastructure spending. Course spending on infrastructure had nothing to do with the cause of the disaster, but it is another example of never let a crisis happen without taking political advantage. In any event, we do need to do more to improve our infrastructure. However, as a taxpayer, I have a real problem with our corrupt Federal Government determining what projects it will undertake, how it will generate the dollars to pay for the various projects, and how it will disburse those dollars. Frankly, I'm of the opinion a major push in this area would end up being little more than a huge boondoggle, ala the "big dig" for example, which was a project to build a highway tunnel in Boston. The original cost was supposedly $ 2.6 billion, but it ended up costing $ 15 billion. So we have a conundrum. We need to improve our infrastructure, but do we want to spend say $ 1.5 trillion over the next 5 years to get $ 300 billion in improvements?       
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #250 on: May 17, 2015, 08:12:51 PM »

I'm sure Warren Buffett has no issues maintaining and improving the right of way for his BNSF railroad.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #251 on: May 17, 2015, 08:42:36 PM »

Head of Planned Parenthood said a 20 week ban on abortions would harm women. Well how does it affect the baby being chopped up in the womb? One is upset and the other eviscerated. Ronald Reagan once said I've noticed that everyone for abortion has already been born. 
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« Reply #252 on: May 17, 2015, 09:29:11 PM »

...and the fetus has no say one way or another.  Then, when the fetus is term and emerges, it still has not much say until it's emancipated.  Then it becomes a member of society and hopefully a constructive member.

Myself, I'm pro choice, not pro life.  Not because the fetus has no say but because it still needs to be up to the mother if the fetus reaches term, not the government, the clergy or anyone else.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #253 on: May 19, 2015, 08:15:55 AM »

Ronald Reagan once said I've noticed that everyone for abortion has already been born. 

Interesting - I hadn't hear that one before.

I understand the need for some reasons, but it seems to have become almost an alternative to birth control and a convenience...   

The feminist that claim they control their "bodies" forget they also controlled them before they chose to copulate.   
I can see it in cases of rape then - as they didn't have control -
Choosing to end a human life that has done nothing wrong other than by the parents they were given is a very serious thing to do.   
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Nancy Pelosi

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« Reply #254 on: May 19, 2015, 09:34:50 AM »

Rubbers and abstinence are great contraceptives.
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