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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #420 on: August 06, 2015, 09:47:39 AM »

I'm thinking the debate will have the advisers for the politicians scratching their head -
... do we keep the PC crap and double talk ?
or do we actually say what we think!

... do we duck and dodge?
or do we tell the public things even if they don't like them!

Could be refreshing

I think at the outset it will be PC, after all, the moderation will be ala establishment political machine ideals, but, I also think Trump will ultimately set the parameters as he unloads and hell with moderation......

Keep in mind that all the 'hopefuls' have a team of advisers to instruct them, much like Ovomits omin-present teleprompter.  Trump dispenses with that crap and says it, good or bad....  I like that.  Sure, he desparaged McCain over his war hero stuff, but in reality, John is one of the ineffective, machine politics, good ole boys in Washington, talking the talk but not even walking the walk, instead, crawling along on the citizens dime.

I really want to see him take Walker to task for his shittey comments.

I find it interesting that some of the hopefuls are mimicking Trump, like the cooking bacon on the barrel of an AR in Texas for effect.  You gotta upstage the radical departure of Trump...or you get left in Trump's dust....  I find it amusing that 'Professional' politicans are trying to upstage the amateur.  Obvious to me, the amateur is the contender, not the 'good old boys' that want to position of nominee.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #421 on: August 06, 2015, 09:51:20 AM »

I don't expect anything out of tonight's debate with a cast of 10 candidates.  Commercials will eat up half the time.  The moderators will take their share showing us how brilliant they are leaving about 2 min per candidate to talk about everything but answer the questions.

Depends, maybe Trump bought all the commercial air time and there won't be any commercials...  Stranger things have happened before.

I guess we shall see and we can discuss it tomorrow.

Al sharpton examining the democratic candidates???  There is a real winner.  That idiot needs to examine his own brain, removed from his cranial cavity first................
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #422 on: August 06, 2015, 08:08:43 PM »

Depends, maybe Trump bought all the commercial air time and there won't be any commercials...  Stranger things have happened before.

I guess we shall see and we can discuss it tomorrow.

Al sharpton examining the democratic candidates???  There is a real winner.  That idiot needs to examine his own brain, removed from his cranial cavity first................

I'm sure there will be lots of cut and paste to tell us what we should think.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #423 on: August 07, 2015, 03:57:34 AM »

I wanted so bad to save this for the next time our "D" grammar checker jumps on anyone...   but then again thought -  hey we can repost this!
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #424 on: August 07, 2015, 03:30:24 PM »


Carly Fiorina does a good job communicating her message.

Carly Fiorina tells Joe Scarborough how she would fix the economy
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #425 on: August 23, 2015, 09:38:25 AM »

I'm thinking this was pretty funny - and probably close to true...

The Coyote Principle
California :
The Governor of California is jogging with his dog along a nature trail. A coyote jumps out and attacks the Governor's dog, then bites the Governor.
The Governor starts to intervene, but reflects upon the movie "Bambi" and then realizes he should stop because the coyote is only doing what is natural.
He calls animal control. Animal Control captures the coyote and bills the state $200 testing it for diseases and $500 for relocating it.
He calls a veterinarian. The vet collects the dead dog and bills the State $200 testing it for diseases.
The Governor goes to hospital and spends $3,500 getting checked for diseases from the coyote and on getting his bite wound bandaged.
The running trail gets shut down for 6 months while Fish & Game conducts a $100,000 survey to make sure the area is now free of dangerous animals.
The Governor spends $50,000 in state funds implementing a "coyote awareness program" for residents of the area.
The State Legislature spends $2 million to study how to better treat rabies and how to permanently eradicate the disease throughout the world.
The Governor's security agent is fired for not stopping the attack. The state spends $150,000 to hire and train a new agent with additional special training for the nature of coyotes.
PETA protests the coyote's relocation and files a $5 million suit against the state.
TEXAS
The Governor of Texas is jogging with his dog along a nature trail. A coyote jumps out and attacks his dog.
The Governor shoots the coyote with his state-issued pistol and keeps jogging. The Governor has spent $.50 on a .45 ACP hollow point cartridge.
The buzzards eat the dead coyote.
And that, my friends, is why California is broke and Texas is not.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #426 on: August 23, 2015, 04:59:35 PM »

Good Editorial - though I don't agree with him that Term limits have hurt the Legislative "Quality."

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I've had enough, have you?

For years I've been listening to folks carp about the quality of Michigan's Legislature, bemoaning the inexperience and incompetence of its members. I've written a dozen times about the damage term limits have done to the quality of lawmaking in this state.

A lot of heads nod in agreement, but nothing ever changes. What happened in Lansing last week ought to be the impetus for action.

One more time, lawmakers convened with the specific purpose of finding a solution to fixing Michigan's miserable roads. They've been at this for two years and once again cowardice, opportunism and weak leadership fueled a failure.

Most infuriating is that they packed up and went home for another three weeks of vacation, after having been off all summer while the roads crisis festered.

If they're going to treat their jobs as part-time positions, we should make them just that. Our mission as ticked-off citizens should be to get a proposal on the 2016 ballot that would move Michigan to a part-time Legislature.

Cut their nearly $80,000 a year pay by 60 percent.

Eliminate their benefits.

Make this a true citizens Legislature, something term limits were supposed to do but didn't.

Forty other states have part-time legislatures, including some that are bigger than Michigan, including Texas and North Carolina.

Abbreviated sessions would focus lawmakers on essential business, and hopefully put an end to pet peeve bills, ideologically driven crusades and showboat legislation whose only intent is getting the sponsor a spotlight.

All the negatives of a part-time legislature, including that lobbyists and professional staff would increase in influence and the governor would become more powerful, have already played out in Lansing because of term limits.

Legislative leaders are too green and short-lived to wield the authority once earned through years of battle. Individual members aren't around long enough to become fully versed on issues, so they are reliant on lobbyists and their staffs for the expertise they lack.

There's little downside to making lawmakers part-time. So how do we get there?

Petition drives are expensive, and though the Constitution intends them to be citizen-driven, the cost is prohibitive without the backing of well-oiled interests.

My idea is to get the attention of groups with the resources to fund a ballot proposal by demonstrating public support.

So I've started an online petition campaign calling for a part-time legislature in Michigan.

It holds no official weight, but may get the process started if enough people sign.

If you agree, please join me in signing the petition at detroitnews.com/legislature.


http://www.detroitnews.com/story/opinion/columnists/nolan-finley/2015/08/21/finley-make-legislature-part-time/32124023/
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #427 on: August 23, 2015, 06:00:07 PM »

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You do not examine legislation in the light of the benefits it will convey if properly administered, but in the light of the wrongs it would do and the harms it would cause if improperly administered.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #428 on: August 27, 2015, 09:23:07 AM »

Its a shame that a mental health issue caused more deaths... 
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #429 on: August 27, 2015, 06:29:44 PM »

Jindal Writes Letter To Obama Telling Him Not To Talk About Climate During Katrina Anniversary Visit

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/08/27/3695968/jindal-katrina-climate-change/

Yeah, you are just the President of the United States so shut up.  You can only say what republicans want, not anything else.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #430 on: August 27, 2015, 08:34:56 PM »

Jindal Writes Letter To Obama Telling Him Not To Talk About Climate During Katrina Anniversary Visit

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/08/27/3695968/jindal-katrina-climate-change/

Yeah, you are just the President of the United States so shut up.  You can only say what republicans want, not anything else.
Poor Barack; he has to kowtow to all them nasty republicans. He's really good at it, too. See me on topic, Duck?
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #431 on: August 27, 2015, 09:44:57 PM »

So what should you do when you know of a person that is exhibiting really erratic mental behavior?

Accusing people of all kinds of outlandish things, claiming things about other people, ranting, making crazy claims?

Shouldn't you report that kind of behavior to some authority?
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Lyndon B. Johnson

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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #432 on: August 28, 2015, 09:52:51 AM »

So what should you do when you know of a person that is exhibiting really erratic mental behavior?

Accusing people of all kinds of outlandish things, claiming things about other people, ranting, making crazy claims?

Shouldn't you report that kind of behavior to some authority?

Sounds logical to me.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #433 on: August 28, 2015, 11:12:24 PM »

....."Shouldn't you report that kind of behavior to some authority?".....

Naw, tie them to some railroad track so they can contemplate their impending doom for a while.  That way, they can think about their miserable life before being squished.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #434 on: August 28, 2015, 11:23:27 PM »

until some Dudley do right comes along to the rescue...

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