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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #495 on: September 03, 2015, 12:12:42 PM »


Interesting to see the "STATES" taking a stance ...  seems to me like they did this for Apartheid and it finally worked to make changes. 
(and we laughed about Coleman Young having Krugerrands in his stash)


Michigan AG Bill Schuette wants states to impose sanctions on Iran as Congress considers deal
http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/index.ssf/2015/09/michigan_ag_bill_schuette_want.html#incart_river
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« Reply #496 on: September 03, 2015, 12:29:09 PM »

My first though t was he should be spending his time on state issues rather than making a statement about a federal issue. Maybe spend some time researching the benefits of legalizing marijuana as opposed to being against it.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #497 on: September 03, 2015, 01:54:11 PM »

I was thinking how appropriate the Judges words were for the Obama administration on immigration
and Hillary from her own Cable to employee's   ;)  ;D



 Judge Bunning said. “If you give people the opportunity to choose which orders they follow, that’s what potentially causes problems.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/04/us/kim-davis-same-sex-marriage.html
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #498 on: September 03, 2015, 02:20:52 PM »

My first though t was he should be spending his time on state issues rather than making a statement about a federal issue. Maybe spend some time researching the benefits of legalizing marijuana as opposed to being against it.

EXACTLY.  He's outta his league and making pronouncements like that is only to further his shot at being governor....  alterior motive.
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« Reply #499 on: September 03, 2015, 03:34:58 PM »

Interesting to see the "STATES" taking a stance ...  seems to me like they did this for Apartheid and it finally worked to make changes. 
(and we laughed about Coleman Young having Krugerrands in his stash)


Michigan AG Bill Schuette wants states to impose sanctions on Iran as Congress considers deal
http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/index.ssf/2015/09/michigan_ag_bill_schuette_want.html#incart_river


Without actually debating the issue....

What exactly do we buy or sell to iran, or could we.

Their main export is oil oil related products.  If the U.S. starts to buy Iranian oil, can Michigan separate it out from the rest of the oil being pumped in Michigan?

From what I can see, the main imports are food... wheat, corn etc. Now, they get it all from a few European countries. 

I get the symbolism, some republicans can't handle peace, or perhaps hate Obama so much they refuse anything he wants.  Or perhaps it is what republicans said when Obama was elected, that they would oppose anything and everything he wanted.

I see this as a pile of nothing.

What I don'e see as nothing, no one even mentions.

Republicans in Washington saw this deal coming.  They likely had a good deal of information of what was in it all along.  Right now the republicans in Washington are very vocal in opposition....

But, here is the unspoken part.  They clearly knew what the deal would be, or close.  Yet, they gave it fast track allowing it to go through without the republicans having a say.  WHY?  The same deal now is almost certain exactly what they knew of when fast track was voted in.

Clearly, the republicans secretly want peace instead of war, but had to hide it from the republican voters.  Hence, they are crying about it now publicly, yet they clearly wanted it to go through.

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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #500 on: September 03, 2015, 03:58:45 PM »

Their main export is oil oil related products. 


U.S. State Department lists terrorism as a main export.

http://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm
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« Reply #501 on: September 03, 2015, 04:56:50 PM »

U.S. State Department lists terrorism as a main export.

http://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm


Well, thank you very much for not being a troll. 
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« Reply #502 on: September 03, 2015, 05:11:37 PM »

Without actually debating the issue....

What exactly do we buy or sell to iran, or could we.

Their main export is oil oil related products.  If the U.S. starts to buy Iranian oil, can Michigan separate it out from the rest of the oil being pumped in Michigan?

From what I can see, the main imports are food... wheat, corn etc. Now, they get it all from a few European countries. 

I get the symbolism, some republicans can't handle peace, or perhaps hate Obama so much they refuse anything he wants.  Or perhaps it is what republicans said when Obama was elected, that they would oppose anything and everything he wanted.

I see this as a pile of nothing.

What I don'e see as nothing, no one even mentions.

Republicans in Washington saw this deal coming.  They likely had a good deal of information of what was in it all along.  Right now the republicans in Washington are very vocal in opposition....

But, here is the unspoken part.  They clearly knew what the deal would be, or close.  Yet, they gave it fast track allowing it to go through without the republicans having a say.  WHY?  The same deal now is almost certain exactly what they knew of when fast track was voted in.

Clearly, the republicans secretly want peace instead of war, but had to hide it from the republican voters.  Hence, they are crying about it now publicly, yet they clearly wanted it to go through.


Without actually debating the issue....

What exactly do we buy or sell to iran, or could we.

Their main export is oil oil related products.  If the U.S. starts to buy Iranian oil, can Michigan separate it out from the rest of the oil being pumped in Michigan?

From what I can see, the main imports are food... wheat, corn etc. Now, they get it all from a few European countries. 

I get the symbolism, some republicans can't handle peace, or perhaps hate Obama so much they refuse anything he wants.  Or perhaps it is what republicans said when Obama was elected, that they would oppose anything and everything he wanted.

I see this as a pile of nothing.

What I don'e see as nothing, no one even mentions.

Republicans in Washington saw this deal coming.  They likely had a good deal of information of what was in it all along.  Right now the republicans in Washington are very vocal in opposition....

But, here is the unspoken part.  They clearly knew what the deal would be, or close.  Yet, they gave it fast track allowing it to go through without the republicans having a say.  WHY?  The same deal now is almost certain exactly what they knew of when fast track was voted in.

Clearly, the republicans secretly want peace instead of war, but had to hide it from the republican voters.  Hence, they are crying about it now publicly, yet they clearly wanted it to go through.


What is it within you that causes you to twist and misinterpret everything so that you can bash republicans?
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #503 on: September 03, 2015, 05:19:19 PM »

Well, thank you very much for not being a troll.


Thanks for not calling me a token.  I appreciate that you exercised some restraint.

Here's what David Petraeus said at yesterday's Lowy Lecture:


“In the Middle East, the collapse of state authority in several countries has created a vast swath of ungoverned territory — and a violent, radicalizing struggle for power, both among rival groups within these countries, and between different countries within the region. The two biggest beneficiaries of this dynamic have been Sunni extremists like the Islamic State and al-Qa’ida, on the one side, and the Islamic Republic of Iran and its proxies, on the other. Both have exploited the chaos, and both have exacerbated the chaos, expanding and entrenching their respective positions across the Middle East.

The result is that we see the creation of multiple terrorist sanctuaries on a scale unparalleled since 9/11 — only now, they are just a stone’s throw from Europe. At the same time, we also see the spectre of a kind of new Iranian empire — in which Tehran trains, funds, equips, and arms extremist proxy groups that then seek to become the dominant element in various neighbouring Arab countries.’’

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/david-petraeus-seven-helpful-lessons-from-lowy-lecture/story-fn8qlm5e-1227510733811
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #504 on: September 03, 2015, 06:06:51 PM »

U.S. State Department lists terrorism as a main export.

http://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm

Yes, lets cut down on our imports of terrorism...



Unless we can buy low and sell high.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #505 on: September 03, 2015, 06:42:22 PM »

U.S. State Department lists terrorism as a main export.

http://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm
Not true. Nothing there says it's their main export.

State Sponsors of Terrorism

Countries determined by the Secretary of State to have repeatedly provided support for acts of international terrorism are designated pursuant to three laws: section 6(j) of the Export Administration Act, section 40 of the Arms Export Control Act, and section 620A of the Foreign Assistance Act. Taken together, the four main categories of sanctions resulting from designation under these authorities include restrictions on U.S. foreign assistance; a ban on defense exports and sales; certain controls over exports of dual use items; and miscellaneous financial and other restrictions.

Designation under the above-referenced authorities also implicates other sanctions laws that penalize persons and countries engaging in certain trade with state sponsors. Currently there are three countries designated under these authorities: Iran, Sudan, and Syria.

Country   Designation Date
Iran   January 19, 1984
Sudan   August 12, 1993
Syria   December 29, 1979
For more details about State Sponsors of Terrorism, see "Overview of State Sponsored Terrorism" in Country Reports on Terrorism.
http://www.state.gov/j/ct/list/c14151.htm

How did you become so xenophobic?
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No emails, no warnings, no communication whatsoever...just that ban

May be what happened to the other libs as well.

I guess disabling the report to admin link only on the lib side was indicative of the slanted games they play.

Enjoy your spoon-fed Faux News type right-wing echo-chamber.

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This is the only way to answer some of the questions posed:

1) I did nothing to warrant the banishment, it's political.

2) It's the router that's blocked but considering all the nonsense right-wing games being played by those running the site...it's just not worth it to bypass the banishment block.

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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #506 on: September 04, 2015, 09:29:33 AM »

My first though t was he should be spending his time on state issues rather than making a statement about a federal issue. Maybe spend some time researching the benefits of legalizing marijuana as opposed to being against it.

When I read that my first thought was he has decided to skip running for governor and going straight to making a run for president :o :o :o
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« Reply #507 on: September 04, 2015, 09:57:28 AM »

When I read that my first thought was he has decided to skip running for governor and going straight to making a run for president :o :o :o

Never make the climb....  On that stage Schutte is extremely small potatoes.....
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« Reply #508 on: September 04, 2015, 08:03:06 PM »

Yes, lets cut down on our imports of terrorism...



Unless we can buy low and sell high.


Sounds like a blood for oil proposal.    They get to export more terrorism and we get cheap oil.
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« Reply #509 on: September 04, 2015, 08:08:28 PM »

How did you become so xenophobic?

I am sure that my foreign born friends and former roommates would find your deceitful attempts to paint me as a xenophobe quite entertaining.

Your intellectual dishonestly is on display for all to witness when you attempt to conflate the lawful foreign born individuals with the lawbreakers. 

It is interesting that you consistently side with the lawless and defend the criminal.  It seems that you can relate to the felonious.   It provides some insight in your moral character.


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“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”  ~ Socrates
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