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Tim Heiss

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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #780 on: November 25, 2015, 08:04:41 PM »

Okay.

From this graph - please explain to me how that is correct.

Remember - you say the top 0.1% makes more than the bottom 90%.

Please show me how that is correct - and how you support a budget the size of the United States by just mainly taxing that evil 0.1%?

What tax rate would you need?  300%?  400%?  500%?


Sorry I had to remove the picture from someone's blog account that doesn't even note where they get their "information" from.

Here's some real information for you to check on,

Lopsided income growth is also a long-term trend. Between 1979 and 2007, the top 1 percent took home well over half (53.9 percent) of the total increase in U.S. income. Over this period, the average income of the bottom 99 percent of U.S. taxpayers grew by 18.9 percent. Simultaneously, the average income of the top 1 percent grew over 10 times as much—by 200.5 percent.

    Lopsided income growth characterizes every state between 1979 and 2007.
        In four states (Nevada, Wyoming, Michigan, and Alaska), only the top 1 percent experienced rising incomes between 1979 and 2007, and the average income of the bottom 99 percent fell.
        In another 15 states the top 1 percent captured between half and 84 percent of all income growth between 1979 and 2007. Those states are Arizona (where 84.2 percent of all income growth was captured by the top 1 percent), Oregon (81.8 percent), New Mexico (72.6 percent), Hawaii (70.9 percent), Florida (68.9 percent), New York (67.6 percent), Illinois (64.9 percent), Connecticut (63.9 percent), California (62.4 percent), Washington (59.1 percent), Texas (55.3 percent), Montana (55.2 percent), Utah (54.1 percent), South Carolina (54.0 percent), and West Virginia (53.3 percent).
        In the 10 states in which the top 1 percent captured the smallest share of income growth from 1979 to 2007, the top 1 percent captured between about a quarter and just over a third of all income growth. Those states are Louisiana (where 25.6 percent of all income growth was captured by the top 1 percent), Virginia (29.5 percent), Iowa (29.8 percent), Mississippi (29.8 percent), Maine (30.5 percent), Rhode Island (32.6 percent), Nebraska (33.5 percent), Maryland (33.6 percent), Arkansas (34.0 percent), and North Dakota (34.2 percent).
    The lopsided growth in U.S. incomes observed between 1979 and 2007 resulted in a rise in every state in the top 1 percent’s share of income. This rise in income inequality represents a sharp reversal of the patterns of income growth that prevailed in the half century following the beginning of the Great Depression; the share of income held by the top 1 percent declined in every state but one between 1928 and 1979.
http://www.epi.org/publication/income-inequality-by-state-1917-to-2012/

Republicans plan to fix this is, well, non-existent, mainly because they don't see it as a problem, but rather an opportunity to make it an even bigger gap by giving tax cuts to the rich.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #781 on: November 25, 2015, 09:47:14 PM »


The founding fathers were afraid of all the power and money going to a small few.



I am sure if a number of the Founding Fathers believed it was a role of the new government to address wealth inequality, they would have discussed it during the Constitutional Convention in Philly.

I don't recall reading this debate, but post a link if you have one.





Here's a site that has James Madison's notes On the Constitutional Convention:

http://www.nhccs.org/mnotes.html


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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #782 on: November 25, 2015, 10:09:14 PM »

And what is the Democrats plan to fix it?

Given that it was the Democrats that broke it - if you are honest about it?

Manufacturing is what brought strength to this country - and we exported it to China under William Jefferson Clinton.

Now - what is your plan to reverse that Baby Hitler?

What is your plan for the US to compete in a Global Economy?
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #783 on: November 30, 2015, 12:17:29 PM »

... since this will be ignored by the War on Woman crowd - I put it here.

She will likely end up dead at her family's hand since they let him out to finish the work.

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Man arrested on suspicion of abusing Hickman student
Friday, November 27, 2015 at 2:00 pm
Columbia police on Wednesday arrested a 53-year-old man who allegedly pulled a teenage family member out of Hickman High School by her hair and slapped her.

Police re-sponded at 3 p.m. Tuesday to the school, 1104 N. Providence Road, for a child abuse call, Officer Latisha Stroer said in an email. Youssif Z. Omar was at the school and noticed a 14-year-old female family member was not wearing a hijab, a traditional headscarf that some Muslim women wear. Omar became irate, Stroer said, grabbed the girl “very violently by the hair” and pulled her outside and down a flight of stairs.

Omar allegedly slapped the girl’s face and pulled her into his car by her hair, Stroer said. Police arrested Omar on suspicion of child abuse, a felony, at 5:10 p.m. Wednesday at his residence in the 1700 block of Timber Creek Drive. He was released from the Boone County Jail after posting a $4,500 bond.

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/crime/man-arrested-on-suspicion-of-abusing-hickman-student/article_5f48a9cb-4382-5442-937e-ad54f1c88855.html
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #784 on: November 30, 2015, 08:49:04 PM »

... since this will be ignored by the War on Woman crowd - I put it here.

She will likely end up dead at her family's hand since they let him out to finish the work.

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Man arrested on suspicion of abusing Hickman student
Friday, November 27, 2015 at 2:00 pm
Columbia police on Wednesday arrested a 53-year-old man who allegedly pulled a teenage family member out of Hickman High School by her hair and slapped her.

Police re-sponded at 3 p.m. Tuesday to the school, 1104 N. Providence Road, for a child abuse call, Officer Latisha Stroer said in an email. Youssif Z. Omar was at the school and noticed a 14-year-old female family member was not wearing a hijab, a traditional headscarf that some Muslim women wear. Omar became irate, Stroer said, grabbed the girl “very violently by the hair” and pulled her outside and down a flight of stairs.

Omar allegedly slapped the girl’s face and pulled her into his car by her hair, Stroer said. Police arrested Omar on suspicion of child abuse, a felony, at 5:10 p.m. Wednesday at his residence in the 1700 block of Timber Creek Drive. He was released from the Boone County Jail after posting a $4,500 bond.

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/crime/man-arrested-on-suspicion-of-abusing-hickman-student/article_5f48a9cb-4382-5442-937e-ad54f1c88855.html


Nice.  Sounds like a crainial rearrangement is in order via FMJ.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #785 on: December 01, 2015, 08:42:33 AM »

I think you are selling the Mayor a little short comparing him to your buddy Luke.

BOB was in fact the big shooter for the State Police for all of Sotheast Michigan when he retired.
and we all saw how effective he was in disciplining Luke - heck they let all his superiors retire before they took any action...   just sayin    8*
I was talking about Reich by the way.

I hope  the fire union is happy with the council they bought.

I have no doubt they will get a great return on investment.
It's amazing that people think the fire union is that powerful... 

almost extinct - down to 5 firefighters and they supposedly had all this political power!

Did you ever think that the experiment may not have made the General Public happy?
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #786 on: December 01, 2015, 05:43:11 PM »

Still Chuckling to myself that MN thinks the fire union has all this political clout with voters...

Couldn't get a fire station millage
East side Station closed
at one point were down to 5 ff's trying to man 2 stations 24/7
Ambulance transport service removed
confined space/tech rescue and haz mat equipment trailers removed
reliance on townships to put out fires
fire marshal job given to a police officer who laughed at not working and public safety directors didn't care or know where he was during the work day
(retired police officer shared that last one with me personally)

Public Safety Directors who came up with the plan however were richly rewarded-
on the double dip plan (retire and get your Public safety salary - both)   

You'd have thought the Police Union was the powerful and strong one with the capture of extra pay and the budget taken from the firefighters portion of the public safety budget.

Mind you this is not the First Election since the experiment began...
My guess is the "voters" through calls and interactions with others in the public finally learned about the experiment and didn't like the direction is was going.
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #787 on: December 01, 2015, 07:01:24 PM »

Still Chuckling to myself that MN thinks the fire union has all this political clout with voters...

Couldn't get a fire station millage
East side Station closed
at one point were down to 5 ff's trying to man 2 stations 24/7
Ambulance transport service removed
confined space/tech rescue and haz mat equipment trailers removed
reliance on townships to put out fires
fire marshal job given to a police officer who laughed at not working and public safety directors didn't care or know where he was during the work day
(retired police officer shared that last one with me personally)

Public Safety Directors who came up with the plan however were richly rewarded-
on the double dip plan (retire and get your Public safety salary - both)   

You'd have thought the Police Union was the powerful and strong one with the capture of extra pay and the budget taken from the firefighters portion of the public safety budget.

Mind you this is not the First Election since the experiment began...
My guess is the "voters" through calls and interactions with others in the public finally learned about the experiment and didn't like the direction is was going.

Look at what happens next Prof.

Look who gets budget now.

Want to bet on it?
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #788 on: December 01, 2015, 07:33:19 PM »

Look at what happens next Prof.

Look who gets budget now.

Want to bet on it?


Heck you can't get much lower on the budget and keep one station open let alone 2
- so that's a no brainer bet

All I would bet on is that there won't be a $14K study before the City manager makes his next decision.     :D

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« Reply #789 on: December 01, 2015, 07:49:40 PM »


Heck you can't get much lower on the budget and keep one station open let alone 2
- so that's a no brainer bet

All I would bet on is that there won't be a $14K study before the City manager makes his next decision.     :D

Want to bet on the over / under of how many meetings George makes before he is out of a job?
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #790 on: December 01, 2015, 09:23:56 PM »

Want to bet on the over / under of how many meetings George makes before he is out of a job?
I was going to predict a retirement announcement at the next meeting...

I hear they have nice homes in Adrian for retirees 
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #791 on: December 01, 2015, 10:41:29 PM »

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« Reply #792 on: December 01, 2015, 11:23:50 PM »

This nation has always taken care of the poor.  It's just that the liberals want to throw a whole bunch of worthless lazy slobs into that category
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Re: What are you thinking - (political version)
« Reply #793 on: December 02, 2015, 11:52:34 AM »

Keep your eye on the Omnibus year-end spending bill emerging soon from the House. Money runs out to fund government December 11. House Republicans, spoiling for a fight with Obama, are pushing a variety of riders -- on blocking Syrian refugees from coming into the U.S., defunding Planned Parenthood, rolling back Dodd-Frank financial industry rules, and curtailing regulation of tobacco. But Paul Ryan, the new House Speaker, doesn’t want a government shutdown, and the legislation will almost certainly need some Democratic votes in order to pass. It will be the first real test of Ryan’s leadership.
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« Reply #794 on: December 02, 2015, 11:56:59 AM »

Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel says he will not resign in wake of shooting probe

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/12/02/chicago-mayor-rahm-emanuel-says-he-not-resign-after-botched-shooting-probe/76660326/

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Protesters getting a taste of "power" have been able to get college presidents to resign, and recently the police chief in Chicago ( a city full of crooks/criminals)... 

But apparently they can't get their "D" buddy to resign his position of power.

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