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Re: Mall of Monroe... will it survive?
« Reply #75 on: February 06, 2018, 01:20:33 PM »

One more thing...most of those mixed use developments look nothing like a mall.   They look more like downtowns.   Apartments and offices above, retail, resturants, and offices on the ground floors.   Sounds a lot like what a lot of people are trying to do in downtown Monroe.   Don't think we can support both.

That could make for an interesting study!

Anyone have any figures on the numbers of currently 'built out' units there are downtown and then how many more are there potentially if every building was finished to 100% occupancy? 

The current mall has the potential to add a lot of units to the area. 

The downtown area has the river as a potential draw but so many of the buildings are still old.  You can put a lot of lipstick on them but when it's all done they're still old.  I know some of that is 'charm' but...

The mall would have the capacity for everything to be new!
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« Reply #76 on: February 06, 2018, 01:51:01 PM »

Here's an article on 'shared living' and how it's still around after the recession.  This certainly may have some future impact on where people choose to live...

yes, 'even in Monroe'!

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/thank-you-for-being-a-friend-and-for-paying-the-rent-2018-01-31
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Re: Mall of Monroe... will it survive?
« Reply #77 on: February 06, 2018, 02:18:50 PM »

One potential downside I see is that even a married couple living (and potentially also working) in one of these settings would no longer need two vehicles. 

Definitely.  With more and more professional types telecommuting its conceivable that even in Monroe with one spouse commuting north or south, you could live with 1 car easily.   In the rare case you need 2, Enterprise will pick you up for probably way less than owning a second.   And there's Uber here now too.   
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Re: Mall of Monroe... will it survive?
« Reply #78 on: February 08, 2018, 10:19:24 AM »

I don't have any ideas of moving to mixed use developments.  I like my own property and just me doing what i want putzing around in the yard, weather permitting of course..  If i get bored i go somewhere.
He said it would be built in 5-10 years so you don't matter.If you arent dead your kids will have you put in a home by then anyway,
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Re: Mall of Monroe... will it survive?
« Reply #79 on: February 08, 2018, 08:31:43 PM »

The mixed use concept is great if you want to live in close quarters with other happy people.

The older I get, and the more dysfunctional that things seem to get - the more I want to live far, far, away from the masses of humanity.

They can be in their happy village, I'll take the wide open spaces and take care of myself.
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« Reply #80 on: February 08, 2018, 10:05:27 PM »

He said it would be built in 5-10 years so you don't matter.If you arent dead your kids will have you put in a home by then anyway,

Well it really doesn't matter because mainly it's in that shithole Monroe Mi,
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Re: Mall of Monroe... will it survive?
« Reply #81 on: February 09, 2018, 07:11:11 PM »

Well it really doesn't matter because mainly it's in that shithole Monroe Mi,

Well said.

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Re: Mall of Monroe... will it survive?
« Reply #82 on: February 10, 2018, 04:04:11 PM »

The mixed use concept is great if you want to live in close quarters with other happy people.

The older I get, and the more dysfunctional that things seem to get - the more I want to live far, far, away from the masses of humanity.

They can be in their happy village, I'll take the wide open spaces and take care of myself.

I'm with ya to a large degree.  I am healthy enough to take care of most things that come my way, and still active in outdoor activities around the house.

The last few years me and my siblings have been dealing with our Mother's dementia and becoming physically unable to care for herself for any duration at a time exceeding 10 minutes......of course that is the extreme part in the circle of life. 

I can see a transition period for me should I be fortunate to live that long where I could spend several years in an environment for that.  It comes down to personal needs.....I think it could be a good development idea.
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Re: Mall of Monroe... will it survive?
« Reply #83 on: March 10, 2018, 08:59:58 AM »

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Mall jewelry chain Claire's Stores is reportedly tumbling toward bankruptcy protection, aiming to polish off its finances and reemerge with a brighter future.

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The chain is expected to file for bankruptcy "in the coming weeks," Bloomberg reported, citing confidential sources. Claire's had 3,291 stores worldwide as of Oct. 28, including 653 franchised locations.

https://www.freep.com/story/money/2018/03/09/claires-bankruptcy/411182002/


Does anyone know if the store here in Monroe is a franchise or a company store?
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« Reply #84 on: March 11, 2018, 09:33:37 AM »

I had the opportunity to walk around the mall this weekend.   I see no reason to ever go back.   One thing that stood out to me, both FYE and Bath and Body Works stores look very dated compared to their stores I've seen in other malls.   I'd be willing to bet they are just riding out their leases.  I didn't walk all the way down but it looked like Claire's was having a garage sale or something.   Hallmark had several bare spots, maybe they are in the process of rolling out spring?    Carsons had a lot of bare-looking racks and shelves from what I saw just walking by.    The only thing busy...ok, the only thing with more than 1-2 customers, was the theater and the play place where Old Navy was.   That place was actually packed.   Good for them!

Good thing we didn't get the one-time-proposed ToysRUs.   Or was that proposed on Telegraph?

I have to believe the days are numbered. 
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« Reply #85 on: March 11, 2018, 10:14:15 AM »

I had the opportunity to walk around the mall this weekend.   I see no reason to ever go back.   One thing that stood out to me, both FYE and Bath and Body Works stores look very dated compared to their stores I've seen in other malls.   I'd be willing to bet they are just riding out their leases.  I didn't walk all the way down but it looked like Claire's was having a garage sale or something.   Hallmark had several bare spots, maybe they are in the process of rolling out spring?    Carsons had a lot of bare-looking racks and shelves from what I saw just walking by.    The only thing busy...ok, the only thing with more than 1-2 customers, was the theater and the play place where Old Navy was.   That place was actually packed.   Good for them!

Good thing we didn't get the one-time-proposed ToysRUs.   Or was that proposed on Telegraph?

I have to believe the days are numbered. 

I'm guessing they have a plan to seal off the area from the Theatre section when they decide to no longer heat the vast open areas...   Carsons could make it as a stand alone possibly -  can't think of anything else thats left worth keeping that heating bill going...     The rent of a mall vs a standalone has actually made downtowns and strip malls look more viable to new businesses.
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Re: Mall of Monroe... will it survive?
« Reply #86 on: March 11, 2018, 10:17:56 AM »

I had the opportunity to walk around the mall this weekend.   I see no reason to ever go back.   One thing that stood out to me, both FYE and Bath and Body Works stores look very dated compared to their stores I've seen in other malls.   I'd be willing to bet they are just riding out their leases. I didn't walk all the way down but it looked like Claire's was having a garage sale or something.   Hallmark had several bare spots, maybe they are in the process of rolling out spring?    Carsons had a lot of bare-looking racks and shelves from what I saw just walking by.    The only thing busy...ok, the only thing with more than 1-2 customers, was the theater and the play place where Old Navy was.   That place was actually packed.   Good for them!

Good thing we didn't get the one-time-proposed ToysRUs.   Or was that proposed on Telegraph?

I have to believe the days are numbered.

I was out there walking yesterday afternoon. 

A girl scout troop had a table of cookies for sale so we bought some of those.  Nice to see a little variety 8) 8) 8)

I had to laugh out loud at your 'garage sale' comment. 

They've been 'hanging out' for quite some time now.  I don't know if that's additional square footage they're using of if they've just pushed some of their regular displays out there to make them more 'visible' from the food court :-\ :-\ :-\

Some of the clerks really push the displays out there and some are a little more conservative.

When I'm walking it makes for some interesting twists and turns sometimes.
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Re: Mall of Monroe... will it survive?
« Reply #87 on: March 11, 2018, 10:50:26 AM »

Claire's does seem to have something going on most of the time and I'm out there at very odd times.  I see a young girl getting her ears pierced just about every time I'm out there.  Some are a lot of fun to watch and some of them almost make me cry! 

As opposed to the next door GNC store which even with their in mall competition gone is still pretty slow most of the time.   
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Re: Mall of Monroe... will it survive?
« Reply #88 on: March 13, 2018, 09:02:40 AM »

Not looking good for Bon Ton (Carsons).   A group of creditors is bidding with a liquidator to immediately liquidate all assets.   The company and some vendors are trying to put together a bid to save about 150 of the 260 remaining stores but need financing and only have 3 weeks to do so.   Sounds like the best case is another 110 stores are closing.     
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« Reply #89 on: March 14, 2018, 08:43:39 AM »

Mall don't matter to CL and I at all.  We have never been there and don't plan on ever going.  Don't like crowds anyway.
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