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Coast Guard operations on Lake Erie and the Great Lakes
« on: February 22, 2015, 11:11:38 AM »

More ice than usual this year so not surprised a freighter got stuck.  When they get it free it's heading back to Deetroit so we may see it go up the lake!!!

This freighter is the one that was very close to the Edmund Fitzgerald when it sank!

If we still had the Mackinac busting ice they would have had it home a few days ago ;) ;) ;)

http://www.13abc.com/story/28169913/2-cutters-to-free-freighter-from-lake-erie-ice

http://www.wkyc.com/story/news/local/ashtabula-county/2015/02/20/arthur-m-anderson-stuck/23761499/
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Re: Freighter stuck in Lake Erie may be freed this afternoon!
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2015, 08:26:30 AM »

It took some work but they managed to get the freighter out of the ice.  It's back in the Detroit River (as of 5 minutes ago anyway) and tied up just downriver from the Ambassador Bridge...   the Canadian icebreaker that helped free the Andersen is tied up across the river and just downriver from the tunnel crossing.

Note:   the following link is to a live time interactive map that shows any boats or ships that have the transmitters onboard to show their position.  When they move the position on the map will move.  So, please don't complain next August that there aren't any ships tied up in the Detroit River ;) ;) ;)  While I was looking this up last night I saw that there was a 'blip' in Monroe so I zoomed in...   figured it would be a ship tied up in the Port of Monroe...   then saw it was south of the river and in the city...   finally zoomed down to E. 5th and Scott streets!!!   But it's not showing this morning so either they took the boat out cruising this morning (highly doubtful) or they just happened to turn on the transmitter while I was watching.  It was showing the location as being just a few minutes old at the time.  I think the name of the boat was 'Second Chance' so I'll drive around that area and see if I can see it...  but it could be inside a garage too ;) ;) ;)

http://charlevoixweather.com/shipping.htm 

Just a little side thought...   if we still had the 'old' Mackinac breaking ice in the great lakes this ship probably wouldn't have gotten stuck in the first place :o :o :o

Some of these links are articles about freeing the Andersen and others just have some real nice photos!!

http://www.techtimes.com/articles/34704/20150224/lake-erie-freighter-trapped-in-ice-rescued-by-canadian-and-american-coast-guard.htm


Interesting that they have an article in this West Texas news link but I never saw anything in the MonroeNews...   you know, a town 'on' Lake Erie...   the Andersen and the Griffen both had to have been within sight of Fermi when they were headed to the Detroit River!!!

http://wtexas.com/content/15022131-arthur-m-anderson-freighter-its-way-back-wisconsin-after-rescue

http://voices.suntimes.com/business-2/incredible-photos-ice-on-the-great-lakes-at-historic-levels/

http://gcaptain.com/canadian-coast-guard-frees-trapped-freighter-on-lake-erie/

http://fox8.com/2015/02/23/canadian-ship-frees-freighter-from-icy-lake-erie-near-conneaut/

http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2015/02/canadian_coast_guard_rescues_f.html


This was my favorite photo although it's not from this rescue...  it's the Andersen on the left and the James R. Barker on the right up at The Soo as seen from the 'new' Mackinaw!!!






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Re: Freighter stuck in Lake Erie may be freed this afternoon!
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2015, 01:22:20 PM »

Here's a Youtube video of the 'old' (now a museum ship at the straits) Mackinaw breaking ice...   it's about 3 times the size of the current ice breakers we use in the Great Lakes today...

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaoXzEm8c2I
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2015, 03:51:32 PM »

Great video BRD.
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Re: Freighter stuck in Lake Erie may be freed this afternoon!
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2015, 06:44:23 AM »

The Andersen is still tied up in the Deetroit River so it's obviously not going to make it to Duluth by today :) :) :) 

Great video BRD.

The original Mackinaw was a legend in it's own time.  It was built in Toledo during WWII to make sure the Great Lakes could stay open for war production.  The locks out east were too small to bring in the huge icebreakers the Coast Guard had for ocean service. 

We went to Toledo and toured it when it was on it's last tour prior to de-commissioning.  I have a bunch of pictures from that day...  if I can find them I'll post a few.  It's now a museum ship in Mackinaw City!

They 'replaced' it with a glorified and over sized 'buoy tender' with the same name but no where near the same capacity to break ice.  The old story...  it was 'cheaper' but it wasn't near as efficient.  The 'bay' class breakers that are down here in our area are pretty much just over sized bathtub toys....   it was one of those they sent to the first 'attempt' to rescue the Andersen...   even two of them wouldn't do the job so they had to get the Canadians to send a 'real' ice breaker to do the job!!!

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Re: Freighter stuck in Lake Erie may be freed this afternoon!
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2015, 08:41:33 AM »

The Anderson is now leaving the Detroit River, entering Lake St. Clair, with The Griffon blazing a trail in the ice ahead of her.

Very interesting thread!
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2015, 01:12:55 PM »

After I watched the long but captivating video of the Mackinaw, I flipper over to another video depicting one of the Russian Nuclear powered ocean ice breakers going to the North Pole with tourists sailing out of Murmask.  It's an amazing video as well.  It breaks ice over 6 meters thick, no issue, thats 18 feet thick....

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Re: Freighter stuck in Lake Erie may be freed this afternoon!
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2015, 01:16:01 PM »

The Anderson is now leaving the Detroit River, entering Lake St. Clair, with The Griffon blazing a trail in the ice ahead of her.

Very interesting thread!


Some of the real 'boat nerds' sit and watch the freighters going all over the great lakes on one of those websites...  I'm sure more interesting if you can look out your window and see them and then look to see which one it is!

The Andersen made it across Lake St. Clair and is now just sitting and waiting while two Canadian Ice ice breakers are working and one US Coast Guard ice breaker (Neah Bay) is also just sitting and waiting...   probably the Neah Bay isn't big enough to handle the ice either! 

http://charlevoixweather.com/shipping.htm
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Re: Freighter stuck in Lake Erie may be freed this afternoon!
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2015, 01:27:35 PM »

Somehow, I don't think breaking ice is a free service.....
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Re: Freighter stuck in Lake Erie may be freed this afternoon!
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2015, 01:46:13 PM »

I see the 'Bay Class' icebreakers have armnament.  2 machine guns...  If they can't break the ice, maybe they can blow it full of holes.... ;D
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Re: Freighter stuck in Lake Erie may be freed this afternoon!
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2015, 07:43:05 PM »

I see the 'Bay Class' icebreakers have armnament.  2 machine guns...  If they can't break the ice, maybe they can blow it full of holes.... ;D


My son and I were talking Saturday and trying to remember if we saw any gun mounts on the original Mackinac...  but most of it's years it patrolled a peaceful and mostly 'open' border! 

Here's an article from the Chicago Tribune back in 2006 where they're discussing starting to be able to 'test fire' weapons from Coast Guard boats.

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The proposal, so unusual it required changes to a nearly 200-year-old disarmament treaty with Canada,


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Coast Guard stations around the Great Lakes began mounting M240 machine guns on cutters and small boats this year, marking the first time since World War II that the lakes have had routine armed patrols.

The 7.62 mm guns, which can fire up to 600 rounds a minute, were installed as part of the nation's anti-terrorism efforts, the Federal Register shows.


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http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2006-09-02/news/0609020151_1_machine-guns-great-lakes-boats

Just checked and the Andersen is almost to Sarnia...   making just over 9 knots.  Several Canadian and US ice breakers are working the river but I don't see any out in Lake Huron.
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Re: Freighter stuck in Lake Erie may be freed this afternoon!
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2015, 07:57:02 PM »

This article mentions the 'open spots' near Monroe!!!

http://www.topix.com/city/monroe-mi/2015/02/150225RJ7I32

Somehow, I don't think breaking ice is a free service.....


It may not be now but I think it was for a lot of years...   I don't know for a fact so if anyone knows please post!!!

I remember 40 some years ago I worked at the mouth of the Saginaw River in Bay City and just downriver from Dow Chemical's 'Bay Gas' refinery (today it's a plastic lined pipe production facility).  There was some certain additive (may have been Ethyl) that was produced in Sarnia...  Bay Gas didn't have enough storage to go all winter without getting in a shipment.  It was a neat ship that hauled it...   The bow and the stern were above the water but the entire middle of it was under water!  Pretty neat to watch...    anyway that ship had a US Coast Guard 'escort' up the river...  first ship we'd seen in several weeks.  We talked about it then and one of the 'old timers' said that the Coast Guard is responsible for keeping navigable waters open up until a certain date which apparently was rapidly approaching...   making me think it might be the end of February which is why the Andersen wanted to be 'home' by then...   unless they can make more than 9 knots they're probably going to be late!!!

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Re: Freighter stuck in Lake Erie may be freed this afternoon!
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2015, 08:28:48 PM »

The Anderson is now sitting in Sarnia. The Griffon appears to be stuck, quite a ways South of Sarnia. She's sitting next to a big tug boat.  Gotta wonder if she's stuck?

Looking over the stats for the Anderson... That's a big ship!!!!!!!
Over 700 feet long!!!!  Man!
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« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2015, 08:33:15 PM »

The Anderson is now sitting in Sarnia. The Griffon appears to be stuck, quite a ways South of Sarnia. She's sitting next to a big tug boat.  Gotta wonder if she's stuck?

Looking over the stats for the Anderson... That's a big ship!!!!!!!
Over 700 feet long!!!!  Man!

Gotta wonder if there's probably a lot of big ice floes moving down the river and they're 'jamming'...

I'll do some looking tomorrow to see if maybe some of the ice breakers might have a camera on board that's broadcasting what they're doing!

Pretty neat what you can see on there...   

wouldn't it be neat if the MCRC plow trucks had something like this ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Freighter stuck in Lake Erie may be freed this afternoon!
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2015, 08:38:33 PM »

They'd all be "stuck" at the donut shop!!!
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