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How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« on: March 03, 2015, 06:47:48 PM »

Lois Lerner just deleted hers...  and the Admin has been stonewalling that investigation

Hillary didn't use hers - the official government one that is...

Actually all that really did was open up her private e-mails "All of them"... to subpoenas and Freedom of information requests.

never mind those pesky "archive" rules...   that way she can be like Lois and things can be lost or buried.   8*

Funny she didn't know that from her term in the Senate

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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2015, 06:51:43 PM »

Lois Lerner just deleted hers...  and the Admin has been stonewalling that investigation

Hillary didn't use hers - the official government one that is...

Actually all that really did was open up her private e-mails "All of them"... to subpoenas and Freedom of information requests.

never mind those pesky "archive" rules...   that way she can be like Lois and things can be lost or buried.   8*

Funny she didn't know that from her term in the Senate
It's all been covered in other threads...some within the past few hours...but then you DO have reading comprehension difficulties.
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This is what I see when I visit:

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This ban is not set to expire."

No emails, no warnings, no communication whatsoever...just that ban

May be what happened to the other libs as well.

I guess disabling the report to admin link only on the lib side was indicative of the slanted games they play.

Enjoy your spoon-fed Faux News type right-wing echo-chamber.

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This is the only way to answer some of the questions posed:

1) I did nothing to warrant the banishment, it's political.

2) It's the router that's blocked but considering all the nonsense right-wing games being played by those running the site...it's just not worth it to bypass the banishment block.

3) The moron stalkers from MT contemplating a visit will be considered a threat and can expect to have a bad day if they act upon those idiotic thoughts.

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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2015, 07:00:54 PM »

Lois Lerner just deleted hers...  and the Admin has been stonewalling that investigation

Hillary didn't use hers - the official government one that is...

Actually all that really did was open up her private e-mails "All of them"... to subpoenas and Freedom of information requests.

never mind those pesky "archive" rules...   that way she can be like Lois and things can be lost or buried.   8*

Funny she didn't know that from her term in the Senate

I guess Hillary thought was more important to share her emails with Chinese hackers than the American public.
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2015, 07:46:36 PM »

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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2015, 07:48:31 PM »

It's all been covered in other threads...some within the past few hours...but then you DO have reading comprehension difficulties.

LOL  coming from the mass poster...

I guess that makes you nervous that another Democrat has flaunted the legal system at will?   and it is exposed in a few threads.
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2015, 08:06:12 PM »

LOL  coming from the mass poster...

I guess that makes you nervous that another Democrat has flaunted the legal system at will?   and it is exposed in a few threads.
LOL...I've mentioned many many times that I'm no fan of Hillary...and she has plenty of issues that she could be bashed on...which makes the lies being told by the right even more asinine.

Here's a clue...
Hillary Email ‘Scandal’? Not So Fast

A NYT report says Clinton may have violated federal regulations by using private email for government business. But those rules weren’t in place when she’s alleged to have broken them.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/03/03/hillary-email-scandal-not-so-fast.html

Sorry...not a fan of Hillary...but the truth matters more than how I feel about her.

http://monroetalks.com/forum/index.php?action=post;quote=690608;topic=28701.0

Note the time I posted that and the time you created this topic:
6:47:48 PM

That's just more proof of your reading difficulties.
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This is what I see when I visit:

"Sorry Frenchfry, you are banned from posting and sending personal messages on this forum.
This ban is not set to expire."

No emails, no warnings, no communication whatsoever...just that ban

May be what happened to the other libs as well.

I guess disabling the report to admin link only on the lib side was indicative of the slanted games they play.

Enjoy your spoon-fed Faux News type right-wing echo-chamber.

Edited to add:

This is the only way to answer some of the questions posed:

1) I did nothing to warrant the banishment, it's political.

2) It's the router that's blocked but considering all the nonsense right-wing games being played by those running the site...it's just not worth it to bypass the banishment block.

3) The moron stalkers from MT contemplating a visit will be considered a threat and can expect to have a bad day if they act upon those idiotic thoughts.

bumfunkegypt@live.com

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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2015, 09:18:13 PM »

Didn't know you were the new self appointed moderator...

So you'd rather blather about anything but the potential criminal acts of a IRS department head - and a supposed candidate for your beloved party...

Hillary has no excuse - being in the Senate and then Obama's SOS...   
but then again Democrats are (at least recently) accustomed to picking and choosing what laws they want to enforce.

She new official business was to be conducted using the archived official records governmental e-mail system... but choose to bypass it for whatever reasons  8*

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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2015, 10:11:25 PM »

Professor H I just can’t even come close to believing what a hypocritical troll you are anymore. 


Did you rant and accuse when the whole f-ing white house under Bush used a private mail instead of recorded government mail?  Did you?  Even once?  NOPE.

FACT: NO Secretary of State EVER before John Kerry used public email… NONE!  You rant and ***** like a hypocritical little girl without engaging in reality.

It doesn’t matter that you hate Clinton because she isn’t a tea nutcase like you.  She did EXACTLY like any Secretary of State; Democratic or Republican.

 
So, professor (LOL) why didn't you give a crap about YOUR ding a lings doing it?
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2015, 10:34:58 PM »

Professor H I just can’t even come close to believing what a hypocritical troll you are anymore. 


Did you rant and accuse when the whole f-ing white house under Bush used a private mail instead of recorded government mail?  Did you?  Even once?  NOPE.

FACT: NO Secretary of State EVER before John Kerry used public email… NONE!  You rant and ***** like a hypocritical little girl without engaging in reality.

It doesn’t matter that you hate Clinton because she isn’t a tea nutcase like you.  She did EXACTLY like any Secretary of State; Democratic or Republican.

 
So, professor (LOL) why didn't you give a crap about YOUR ding a lings doing it?

Welcome back duck,  even though you decided to blast me on your way.
Fact Check:
I wasn't here back in 07 when the Bush e-mail incident happened...
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Even so - the Democrat watchdog group that did - is silent on Hillary now...
why is that?

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Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, a liberal watchdog group that previously criticized the George W. Bush administration over missing emails, didn't have anything to say about the prospect of missing Clinton emails during her tenure as secretary of state. The Huffington Post repeatedly attempted to get comment from the group, which is run by Clinton ally David Brock, on Tuesday, but did not hear back after more than 7 hours.

The group felt much more strongly about another case of missing emails in 2007, when it lambasted the White House for failing to properly record email communications as required by the Presidential Records Act. Senior Bush advisers, including messaging guru Karl Rove, allegedly used Republican National Committee email servers for official communication that created a gap of over 5 million emails between March of 2003 and October of 2005 -- a timespan encapsulating Bush's re-election bid. Then-White House press secretary Dana Perino admitted that officials "screwed up" by not requiring the saving of emails sent using GOP campaign accounts.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/03/hillary-clinton-emails-nyt_n_6793700.html


The Whitehouse at that time admitted they screwed up -

And those were not top level appointee's  like the Secretary of State position!

Finally:
I did work for a government - and was on a board for another government unit... 
funny thing is the "sunshine" laws have been in place at all levels for some time now.   We were told that conducting business on your private e-mail opened that e-mail up to public scrutiny.

Now you are telling me that in the Federal Government - it's okay to use private e-mails for top officials?   You can read the same articles - but come to a different conclusion it appears.     Nixon was facing impeachment for missing time on a tape that likely showed his knowledge in the coverup of the Watergate break in.    Lois Lerner is party to the destruction of years of e-mails that likely will show higher ups had knowledge... with the IRS stonewalling any investigation. 
Now Hillary is to be trusted in turning over what she thinks is important?
I'd say the Archive laws have been around long enough that most reasonable people would not even question the issue...   yet you and Fry seem to think this is nothing to be worried about.   

Heck when ABC and the other liberal media are questioning it - why can't I?

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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2015, 10:39:00 PM »


Fact Check:
I wasn't here back in 07 when the Bush e-mail incident happened...
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Forget it, he's rolling  : )

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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2015, 11:30:11 PM »

Just curious.....

How many of ya'all have used YOUR personal E-mail accounts to conduct professional business on?

I haven't.

Now - I will admit that I have had to resort to E-mailing coworkers with my personal E-mail account due to company E-mail rule policies.

You see - they don't like us sending dirty jokes, with funny punch lines or cartoons through the company E-mail servers for some reason.

One of my co-workers was actually FIRED from Honda for receiving such a joke - deleting it without reading it - but then forwarding it to another coworker from his trash bin when asked to do so as a favor cause he heard it was a "good one."  HR fired everyone who forwarded the joke.  It happens - so we send each other dirty jokes with our personal E-mail accounts - but we don't consider that "doing business" since clearly the company doesn't consider it "appropriate" business.

I feel funny jokes and cartoons at work serve a valuable "stress relieving" function that you just can't put a value on.  I do try to keep them appropriate though - for the venue - but I never send them from my work account, or to a work account!
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2015, 01:05:36 AM »

Welcome back duck,  even though you decided to blast me on your way.
Fact Check:
I wasn't here back in 07 when the Bush e-mail incident happened...
  ;)

Ahhh, so you did condemn the Bush white house for using private email... NOT!

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Even so - the Democrat watchdog group that did - is silent on Hillary now...
why is that?

I know it is very hard to accept reality that Faux refuses to tell you but the fact is that NO SECRETARY OF STATE BEFORE KERRY USED ANYTHING BUT PRIVATE EMAIL.  I know that is hard to understand but give it a try.

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The Whitehouse at that time admitted they screwed up -

And those were not top level appointee's  like the Secretary of State position!

Nah they were just Cheney and his staff among others.... but why quibble.

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Finally:
I did work for a government - and was on a board for another government unit... 
funny thing is the "sunshine" laws have been in place at all levels for some time now.   We were told that conducting business on your private e-mail opened that e-mail up to public scrutiny.

Now you are telling me that in the Federal Government - it's okay to use private e-mails for top officials?   
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Wow you just push the same lies don't ya.  First off, I didn't tell you that you made it up.  Second BUSH did it and your republicans were silent.  WHY?  ASide from that it was ALL Secretaries of state.... ALL until Kerry.  Ya know like your republican ones too.  After Clinton, Obama changed the rule that no president before him used, that they had to use public email.  Gosh, shouldn't you be praising Obama for why your republicans refused to do?


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You can read the same articles - but come to a different conclusion it appears. 
   

There is no... conclusion, that you make up that I conjured.  I am stating FACT.  If you only listen to right wing nuts that lie to you then you will never know.

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Nixon was facing impeachment for missing time on a tape that likely showed his knowledge in the coverup of the Watergate break in.    Lois Lerner is party to the destruction of years of e-mails that likely will show higher ups had knowledge... with the IRS stonewalling any investigation.

Umm Soooooooooooo? ? ? ?   Are you saying that Secretary Clinton broke the law and you know it but no one else does?  WSell, I guess you and the nuts do make up lies, so perhaps you do.

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Now Hillary is to be trusted in turning over what she thinks is important?
She did.  Your republicans NEVER did!  EVER!  But, hey, you KNOW that there are all these secret things all hidden under her pillow implicating her for who know what lie you right wing nuts made up today.

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I'd say the Archive laws have been around long enough that most reasonable people would not even question the issue...   yet you and Fry seem to think this is nothing to be worried about. 

Wait, where did I say that?  Ohhhh, I didn't did I.  You just made it up.  The archive laws were there prior to the Bush White House using private email to hide wrongdoing.  As far as Secretary of State, I simply stated the FACT that no Secretary ever used public email.. ever!  It doesn't mean I made up some phantom wrongdoing...  just that there was no secretary that ever did. You just do what you nuts always do and make up that whatever your republicans did doesn't matter, but anyone that follows is horrid.

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Heck when ABC and the other liberal media are questioning it - why can't I?

question all you want but that doesn't give you the right to make up lies, or in our case bleat what faux news tells you to.
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2015, 01:06:50 AM »

Just curious.....

How many of ya'all have used YOUR personal E-mail accounts to conduct professional business on?

I haven't.

Now - I will admit that I have had to resort to E-mailing coworkers with my personal E-mail account due to company E-mail rule policies.

You see - they don't like us sending dirty jokes, with funny punch lines or cartoons through the company E-mail servers for some reason.

One of my co-workers was actually FIRED from Honda for receiving such a joke - deleting it without reading it - but then forwarding it to another coworker from his trash bin when asked to do so as a favor cause he heard it was a "good one."  HR fired everyone who forwarded the joke.  It happens - so we send each other dirty jokes with our personal E-mail accounts - but we don't consider that "doing business" since clearly the company doesn't consider it "appropriate" business.

I feel funny jokes and cartoons at work serve a valuable "stress relieving" function that you just can't put a value on.  I do try to keep them appropriate though - for the venue - but I never send them from my work account, or to a work account!

Wow, between 24/7 at MT and passing around "jokes" how can you find time to actually work... Yeah, I didn't think so.
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2015, 10:56:12 AM »

What I find interesting is that the only two strong Democrat defenders on MT are. . .  FF and Duck.

Duck doesn't seem that intelligent but seems to want to emulate FF, and FF relies mostly on cut and paste, with very little of his own thoughts added other than name calling of anyone who doesn't agree with his agenda.

Are these two posters representative of the whole Democrat party, or is it just a local fluke.

Personally, I don't care about the Party.
If someone does a good job, great. Democrat or Republican. Doesn't matter.
If they lie, cheat, steal, or they don't use good judgement as an elected official, they need to be replaced.

« Last Edit: March 04, 2015, 11:17:06 AM by nails »
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #14 on: March 04, 2015, 11:01:37 AM »

What I find interesting is that the only two strong Democrat defenders on MT are. . .  FF and Duck.

Duck doesn't seem that intelligent, and FF relies mostly on cut and paste, with very little of his own thoughts added other than name calling of anyone who doesn't agree with his agenda.

Are these two posters representative of the whole Democrat party, or is it just a local fluke.

Personally, I don't care about the Party.
If someone does a good job, great. Democrat or Republican. Doesn't matter.
If they lie, cheat, steal, or don't use good judgement as an elected official, they need to be replaced.



+1 and may I add third party memebers.
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