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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2015, 11:04:12 AM »

Ahhh, so you did condemn the Bush white house for using private email... NOT!

I know it is very hard to accept reality that Faux refuses to tell you but the fact is that NO SECRETARY OF STATE BEFORE KERRY USED ANYTHING BUT PRIVATE EMAIL.  I know that is hard to understand but give it a try.

Nah they were just Cheney and his staff among others.... but why quibble.
   

There is no... conclusion, that you make up that I conjured.  I am stating FACT.  If you only listen to right wing nuts that lie to you then you will never know.

Umm Soooooooooooo? ? ? ?   Are you saying that Secretary Clinton broke the law and you know it but no one else does?  WSell, I guess you and the nuts do make up lies, so perhaps you do.
She did.  Your republicans NEVER did!  EVER!  But, hey, you KNOW that there are all these secret things all hidden under her pillow implicating her for who know what lie you right wing nuts made up today.

Wait, where did I say that?  Ohhhh, I didn't did I.  You just made it up.  The archive laws were there prior to the Bush White House using private email to hide wrongdoing.  As far as Secretary of State, I simply stated the FACT that no Secretary ever used public email.. ever!  It doesn't mean I made up some phantom wrongdoing...  just that there was no secretary that ever did. You just do what you nuts always do and make up that whatever your republicans did doesn't matter, but anyone that follows is horrid.

question all you want but that doesn't give you the right to make up lies, or in our case bleat what faux news tells you to.


I see you and Fry attended the same party line "answer school" - blame it on a source that wasn't cited...

As far as the Bush era - that was wrong and shouldn't have been done.

But two wrongs don't make a right as my parents taught me long ago...

I find it hard to believe the Federal Bureaucracy couldn't figure out how to make the transition from mail and recordings - to e-mail - until 2014 as the Democrats are rushing to claim as a defense.   

But if in all this you think was okay for top level government officials to use personal e-mails -
 it's impossible to get the point about archive and Freedom of Information across.
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Heck even the president's Press Secretary confirmed the fact that it was made known across Obama's administration - but that's a pesky fact  ;)

Curious why records show she used multiple personal e-mail accounts?
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About 300 of Clinton’s recovered e-mails were turned over to a congressional committee investigating the 2012 deaths of four Americans at U.S. facilities in Benghazi, Libya. The chairman of that panel, Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.), said Tuesday that the former secretary of state used multiple personal accounts.


White House press secretary Josh Earnest said at his daily briefing.

“Very specific guidance has been given to agencies all across the government, which is specifically that employees in the Obama administration should use their official e-mail accounts when they’re conducting official government business,”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/clintons-use-of-personal-e-mail-at-state-dept-violated-obama-directive/2015/03/03/454d7938-c1b9-11e4-9271-610273846239_story.html


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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #16 on: March 04, 2015, 11:46:05 AM »

What I find interesting is that the only two strong Democrat defenders on MT are. . .  FF and Duck.

Duck doesn't seem that intelligent but seems to want to emulate FF, and FF relies mostly on cut and paste, with very little of his own thoughts added other than name calling of anyone who doesn't agree with his agenda.

Are these two posters representative of the whole Democrat party, or is it just a local fluke.

Personally, I don't care about the Party.
If someone does a good job, great. Democrat or Republican. Doesn't matter.
If they lie, cheat, steal, or they don't use good judgement as an elected official, they need to be replaced.

Poor baby, can’t answer in the real world so have to go for personal insults to avoid the topic. 


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If they lie, cheat, steal, or they don't use good judgement as an elected official, they need to be replaced.

Therein lies the problem tea bagger.  Those are nice platitudes but need to be used fairly.  See, you and yours are bleating that Clinton did something new and no scuzzy republican ever did such a nasty thing.  But, they did dingaling.  I know Faux has not told you yet, but it is a fact that no Secretary of State - none, tea bagger - ever used public email before Kerry. 

Speaking slowly just for you.  It means that your republicans did the same thing dodo.  Making up that Clinton is suddenly doing something no one else ever did is stupid.  But, then you tea bagger republicans don’t really care about facts, just the hate and lies.

So, according to your platitudes you should be condemning all the republican Secretaries of State before Clinton of being ghasty horrors that hid all kinds of illegal things in private email instead of public email.  Right?  Yeah, didn’t think you were man enough to join the real world.

Astute of you to notice that no one other than right wing nuts like you post here much, because you and your bagger buddies only care about the insults and hatred and shutting up anything but right wing Faux news spam.


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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #17 on: March 04, 2015, 11:56:03 AM »

Therein lies the problem tea bagger.  Those are nice platitudes but need to be used fairly.  See, you and yours are bleating that Clinton did something new and no scuzzy republican ever did such a nasty thing.  But, they did dingaling.  I know Faux has not told you yet, but it is a fact that no Secretary of State - none, tea bagger - ever used public email before Kerry. 

Speaking slowly just for you.  It means that your republicans did the same thing dodo.  Making up that Clinton is suddenly doing something no one else ever did is stupid.  But, then you tea bagger republicans don’t really care about facts, just the hate and lies.

So, according to your platitudes you should be condemning all the republican Secretaries of State before Clinton of being ghasty horrors that hid all kinds of illegal things in private email instead of public email.  Right?  Yeah, didn’t think you were man enough to join the real world.

Astute of you to notice that no one other than right wing nuts like you post here much, because you and your bagger buddies only care about the insults and hatred and shutting up anything but right wing Faux news spam.

Two things Duckhead.

1.  I didn't say anything about Clinton and her emails.

2.  The above statement from you proves my point


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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2015, 12:02:31 PM »

Two things Duckhead.

1.  I didn't say anything about Clinton and her emails.

2.  The above statement from you proves my point

Poor wittle baby...

So, you just happened to make personal insults to me with nothing at all to do with the topic.  You just wanted to inuslt me, Is that it?

Okay, from your platitudes you say Clinton did nothing any different than any other secretary of state before her, move on, nothing to see here.  Yeah, right!
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #19 on: March 04, 2015, 01:02:36 PM »

What I find interesting is that the only two strong Democrat defenders on MT are. . .  FF and Duck.

Duck doesn't seem that intelligent but seems to want to emulate FF, and FF relies mostly on cut and paste, with very little of his own thoughts added other than name calling of anyone who doesn't agree with his agenda.

Are these two posters representative of the whole Democrat party, or is it just a local fluke.

Personally, I don't care about the Party.
If someone does a good job, great. Democrat or Republican. Doesn't matter.
If they lie, cheat, steal, or they don't use good judgement as an elected official, they need to be replaced.




GREAT post.  I agree 100% with everything you said.

I'll bet $100.00 that you will NEVER see ANY Democrat agree these facts.
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #20 on: March 04, 2015, 01:18:52 PM »


GREAT post.  I agree 100% with everything you said.

I'll bet $100.00 that you will NEVER see ANY Democrat agree these facts.

Why not LiveLIAR.  It is what you gave me for years in Poor baby, can’t answer in the real world so have to go for personal insults to avoid the topic. 


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If they lie, cheat, steal, or they don't use good judgement as an elected official, they need to be replaced.

What's not to agree with.  All very sound platitudes.  Pay up LIAR.
« Last Edit: March 04, 2015, 01:20:45 PM by ducksoup »
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #21 on: March 04, 2015, 01:31:05 PM »

I see you and Fry attended the same party line "answer school" - blame it on a source that wasn't cited...

As far as the Bush era - that was wrong and shouldn't have been done.

But two wrongs don't make a right as my parents taught me long ago...

I find it hard to believe the Federal Bureaucracy couldn't figure out how to make the transition from mail and recordings - to e-mail - until 2014 as the Democrats are rushing to claim as a defense.   

But if in all this you think was okay for top level government officials to use personal e-mails -
 it's impossible to get the point about archive and Freedom of Information across.
8*

Heck even the president's Press Secretary confirmed the fact that it was made known across Obama's administration - but that's a pesky fact  ;)

Curious why records show she used multiple personal e-mail accounts?

There is a major security risk with using an email account outside of an organizations mail server.   This outside email is traveling across unsecured servers enroute to the addressee.

This would be an IT Policy violation at any company that I have worked for and you would likely be terminated if you were sending any sensitive information in this manner.


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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #22 on: March 04, 2015, 01:58:37 PM »

There is a major security risk with using an email account outside of an organizations mail server.   This outside email is traveling across unsecured servers enroute to the addressee.

This would be an IT Policy violation at any company that I have worked for and you would likely be terminated if you were sending any sensitive information in this manner.




Don't try bringing facts into a name calling contest  ;D

The party line is we've always done it that way -

I'm sure the multiple email accounts were all just so she could keep up with Friends/Foes/Donors   8)
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« Reply #23 on: March 04, 2015, 04:15:28 PM »

Why not LiveLIAR.  It is what you gave me for years in Poor baby, can’t answer in the real world so have to go for personal insults to avoid the topic. 


What's not to agree with.  All very sound platitudes.  Pay up LIAR.

Oh, I see.  You're drunk.  That's the only time you show up here and ramble on, incoherently. 

"It is what you gave me for years in Poor baby..."

I have NO IDEA what you were trying to say there.

Really makes the Democrats look intelligent though, bub.   8*


ALL very sound platitudes?  REALLY? ? ? ? ? ?

So you agree with this statement:


Duck doesn't seem that intelligent...

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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
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« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2015, 12:57:07 PM »

... and the defense is hey someone else did it... 
only works until 2011 when the President directed all his administration to conduct official business using government (Archived) e-mails

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it was Clinton and her staff who decided which e-mails to turn over. "That's not exactly the height of transparency for someone who is the de facto Democratic presidential nominee in 2016," writes The Washington Post's Chris Cillizza.

 
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Dick Harpootlian, a former Democratic Party chairman in South Carolina, told CNN. “Do we nominate her not knowing what’s in those e-mails?”

Added Boyd Brown, a Democratic National Committee member and former state legislator from South Carolina, "These are problems that raise real leadership and transparency concerns, concerns that can be addressed in caucuses and primaries, but would go ignored in a coronation process."

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/Decoder/2015/0305/Hillary-Clinton-s-secret-code-name-for-Chelsea-and-other-e-mail-revelations
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2015, 01:12:38 PM »

Darn that new Technology like e-mail...    ;D

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Transparency and Open Government

Memorandum for the Heads of Executive Departments and Agencies
SUBJECT:      Transparency and Open Government

My Administration is committed to creating an unprecedented level of openness in Government.  We will work together to ensure the public trust and establish a system of transparency, public participation, and collaboration. Openness will strengthen our democracy and promote efficiency and effectiveness in Government.

Government should be transparent.  Transparency promotes accountability and provides information for citizens about what their Government is doing.  Information maintained by the Federal Government is a national asset. My Administration will take appropriate action, consistent with law and policy, to disclose information rapidly in forms that the public can readily find and use. Executive departments and agencies should harness new technologies to put information about their operations and decisions online and readily available to the public. Executive departments and agencies should also solicit public feedback to identify information of greatest use to the public.

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« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2015, 06:06:06 PM »

Don't try bringing facts into a name calling contest  ;D

The party line is we've always done it that way -

I'm sure the multiple email accounts were all just so she could keep up with Friends/Foes/Donors   8)

Wow not a professor accuses me of not using fact. Why do you repeatedly ignore FACT to attack Clinton and ignore that ALL OTHER SECRETARIES OF STATE USED PRIVATE EMAIL.  ALL OF THEM. 

I know that is very hard to understand but try.

Just admit you are just a partisan hypocrite and don't really give a crap about public emails or you would have ranted like this over the Bush Wite House or all of the republican secretaries of state. 

But you won't because you only want to be a troll.
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2015, 06:09:43 PM »

Oh, I see.  You're drunk.  That's the only time you show up here and ramble on, incoherently. 

"It is what you gave me for years in Poor baby..."

I have NO IDEA what you were trying to say there.

Really makes the Democrats look intelligent though, bub.   8*


ALL very sound platitudes?  REALLY? ? ? ? ? ?

So you agree with this statement:

Oh how cute

The LiveLIAR is not just a liar but also welshes on bets by playing word games.


I am certain that if you work really, really, really hard you could someday become a contestant on "Who's smarter than a kindergartner."


Well, not really, I lied (just like you liar) you don't stand a remote chance of even getting on the show.  But it won't hurt you to try and learn, maybe someday you could try challenging a preschooler.
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2015, 06:13:29 PM »

Wow not a professor accuses me of not using fact. Why do you repeatedly ignore FACT to attack Clinton and ignore that ALL OTHER SECRETARIES OF STATE USED PRIVATE EMAIL.  ALL OF THEM. 

I know that is very hard to understand but try.

Just admit you are just a partisan hypocrite and don't really give a crap about public emails or you would have ranted like this over the Bush Wite House or all of the republican secretaries of state. 

But you won't because you only want to be a troll.

Even the ones before E-mail?

Everyone of them?

All of them?

Really?

I call BS on that statement!
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