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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #45 on: March 05, 2015, 11:02:31 PM »

I think certain posters are missing the point here.....

Secretary Clinton was an EMPLOYEE of the United States of America.

In fact - she was a fairly HIGH RANKING member of said ORGANIZATION.

As such CONGRESS had OVERSIGHT over her ACTIVITIES.

SO - when they asked to see records involving her activities in how she performed as an EMPLOYEE of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA - she had an OBLIGATION to produce said documents.

Now - that was true whether the E-mails were on a personal server, or the Government Server.

For whatever Reason Secretary Clinton didn't do that - though now she claims she wants all America to see them.

Now - why has it taken so many months to turn her records over to her previous employer?

Did she turn ALL her records over to her previous employer?

It seems to me she had PLENTY of time to sanitize said documents - if she wanted to - though I would NEVER accuse such an HONEST person of doing that.

I mean - What could Possibly be in those E-mails that Could Possibly Matter?

But.....

If it looks like a cover-up, and it smells like a cover-up, could it be a cover-up?

And by the way - the IRS can't find E-mails either.

What a coincidence.

It almost seems like a pattern of behavior.
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #46 on: March 05, 2015, 11:07:51 PM »

Nothing to see here, folks.
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #47 on: March 06, 2015, 12:20:23 AM »

Because "they" did it isn't an excuse...   yet some want to enable the bad practices.

I guess because we didn't say it was wrong in 2007 - we are to remain quiet on this?

Obama should get credit if no one else in the years of e-mails prior - decided hey we should probably keep these for the government archive... 
His moment of shining light came when the hackers attacked - 2011

The President directed officials to use official emails for official business, and Hillary did the same to her agency.

But yet it wasn't important enough for the Secretary of State to follow her own direction to her underlings.

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Jeb Bush's e-mails were all turned over - as it seems States were up on transparency and e-mail documentation preservation way before the Feds?

We don't know if "all" of the e-mails Hillary used have all been turned over - do we?

And that's not even starting on the years of emails the IRS tried to hide for Lerner...   8*
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #48 on: March 06, 2015, 07:28:51 AM »

I still want someone to explain why Hillary needs the State Department to release emails that she has on a server in her house.   Why can't she just release them all?

Hillary tweeted this:


I want the public to see my email. I asked State to release them. They said they will review them for release as soon as possible.

https://twitter.com/hillaryclinton/status/573340998287413248
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2015, 09:37:38 AM »

I still want someone to explain why Hillary needs the State Department to release emails that she has on a server in her house.   Why can't she just release them all?

Hillary tweeted this:


I want the public to see my email. I asked State to release them. They said they will review them for release as soon as possible.

https://twitter.com/hillaryclinton/status/573340998287413248

Because she probably did classified stuff on them...?



Interesting to see that one arm of Obama's enforcement (DOJ) was also involved in keeping people away from the off site IRS email storage site -
Really leading to the question - what are they so afraid of in those emails?

Yep the reason Lerner pleaded the fifth in front of the world...
http://www.hngn.com/articles/74398/20150304/department-of-justice-blocked-search-for-lois-lerners-missing-irs-emails-lawyer-says.htm
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #50 on: March 06, 2015, 01:04:17 PM »

The Associated Press reports:

The White House counsel's office was not aware at the time Hillary Rodham Clinton was secretary of state that she relied solely on personal email and only found out as part of the congressional investigation into the Benghazi attack, according to a person familiar with the matter.

The person said Clinton's exclusive reliance on personal email as the nation's top diplomat was inconsistent with the guidance given to agencies that official business should be conducted on official email accounts.

full story at:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/03/assessing-the-state-of-democratic-panic-about-hillarys-emails/386911/
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #51 on: March 06, 2015, 04:50:35 PM »

Even when they lie all the time why does the Obozo admin try to make up stories and expect us to believe them.
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #52 on: March 06, 2015, 08:44:39 PM »

God almighty. WH knew, at an absolute minimum, about HRC email deal in August 2014, yet Josh Ernest says the President may not have known until it came out in the news in the last week or so. Are you kidding me? Time after time this President doesn't find out about all these major deals until the average man also does when it came out in the newspapers? Come on!

Everything is fudged up, but the President hasn't yet read about it in the paper, so certainly he couldn't be blamed for not heading off the various catastrophes because he was unaware.   

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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #53 on: March 06, 2015, 08:50:31 PM »

Because she probably did classified stuff on them...?



Interesting to see that one arm of Obama's enforcement (DOJ) was also involved in keeping people away from the off site IRS email storage site -
Really leading to the question - what are they so afraid of in those emails?

Yep the reason Lerner pleaded the fifth in front of the world...
http://www.hngn.com/articles/74398/20150304/department-of-justice-blocked-search-for-lois-lerners-missing-irs-emails-lawyer-says.htm


I would believe that keeping classified documents on a personal computer would violate most any government IT Policy.   Most organizations want their sensitive documents on their hardware and protected by their disk encryption software.

Lerner emails already showed that she was meeting with the DOJ to pursue the conservative groups.   It appears likely that the DOJ were aiding and abetting Lerner's efforts.
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #54 on: March 06, 2015, 08:54:08 PM »

Buzzfeed joins the left piling on Hillary.

In 2000 Video Hillary Clinton Says She Doesn’t “Do Email” Because Of Investigations Into Her

Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has come under fire in recent days after the New York Times revealed she exclusively used a private email address to conduct official business in her capacity as the nation’s top diplomat.

A subsequent Associated Press report revealed Clinton used a computer server registered to her New York state home to send and receive email, a move they described as “highly unusual.”

An old ABC 20/20 report from 2001 that’s been on YouTube since 2007 shows Clinton might have avoided email entirely later in her term as first lady because of all investigations the Clinton White House was under.

From the report’s transcript, via the video and Lexis Nexis:

ROSS: (VO) Dionne Warwick sang for the small group. Ironically enough, “That’s what friends are for.” Numerous stars were there, but Paul and his wife Andrea were the ones seated right next to Mrs. Clinton. In fact, Paul’s home videos picked up Mrs. Clinton saying she had stopped using e-mail messages because of all the investigations she had been through.
Senator CLINTON: (From home video) As much as I’ve been investigated and all of that, you know, why would I—I don’t even want—why would I ever want to do e-mail?
Mr. PAUL: (From home video) No, no.
Senator CLINTON: (From home video) Can you imagine?
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #55 on: March 06, 2015, 09:02:38 PM »

I watch the Obama spokesperson, or the State Departments spokespeople, respond to questions and it makes me gag. Seldom, if ever, do you ever get anything close a straight answer. All spin, deception, or just plain BS. But they know they can get away with it because the average American doesn't know their *** from third base when it comes to what is actually going on.  And so it goes. We're all but done.
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
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Re: How democrats get around those pesky email rules...
« Reply #58 on: March 08, 2015, 11:53:35 AM »

John,  you referring to those two ladies the State Dept rolls out to set us straight.  Anybody but the Obozo regime would be embarrassed.
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