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Re: Nissan Floorboard issue?
« Reply #75 on: August 06, 2015, 09:37:03 AM »

I do too.  It's aftermarket where the issue will lie.  Not so sure the new regime has the foresight to continue Alan's visions.
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Re: Nissan Floorboard issue?
« Reply #76 on: August 07, 2015, 08:58:34 AM »

Ford is using high tech adhesives to glue the panels together.  It's pretty common today in the heavy truck industry to glue instead of weld but not in the automotive industry.  Welding aluminum (TIG) or pulsed mig is too time consuming and costly for production work and TIG can't be done with robotics with consistent results.

My BIL is a design enginner for Ford btw.


The high tech adhesives they're using today is a direct result from a lot of the trial and error work we were doing in the marine industry back as far as the 1960s.  Big players in that arena were the Gougeon Brothers up in Bay City.  They started off building wooden ice boats with epoxy and never looked back.  When looking for more 'speed' on a sailboat the answer is usually bigger sails.  With bigger sails you need stronger masts.  Stronger frequently means heavier though.  One answer was to take the aluminum masts and add epoxy and carbon fiber layers.  End result is a much stronger mast with only a little additional weight. 

I've said here before that epoxy and carbon fiber has long been overlooked by the auto industry. 

It doesn't rust (or corrode) and repair is relatively easy.

Here's some history from Gougeons and their West System:

http://www.westsystem.com/ss/history/
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Re: Nissan Floorboard issue?
« Reply #77 on: August 07, 2015, 02:34:28 PM »

I'm sure that person who made the suggestion of "change" to Aluminum had to really have some solid data for now and projections in the future - and even then was sticking their necks out in an industry that lives from model to model vying for sales against the competition.    I can see some future for the smaller lightweight "electric" cars with these carbon fiber bodies. 
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Re: Nissan Floorboard issue?
« Reply #78 on: August 07, 2015, 03:46:32 PM »


I've said here before that epoxy and carbon fiber has long been overlooked by the auto industry. 


BMW has carbon fiber in production on the BMW i3. 

The OEMs need to overcome the costs of carbon fiber to bring it into high production models.

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« Reply #79 on: August 07, 2015, 11:09:08 PM »

I have a lightweight carbon fiber stock on  my new stick and it's light and durable plus you'd never know it was carbon fiber if I didn't tell you....
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Re: Nissan Floorboard issue?
« Reply #80 on: August 08, 2015, 09:45:46 AM »

BMW has carbon fiber in production on the BMW i3. 

The OEMs need to overcome the costs of carbon fiber to bring it into high production models.

If they use more of it then (at least theoretically) the price should drop. 
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« Reply #81 on: August 09, 2015, 08:26:06 AM »

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