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Venezuela (#FeeltheBern)
« on: August 03, 2015, 03:49:49 PM »


The United Socialist Party of Venezuela bringing change.


Venezuelan currency enters free fall mode

http://www.ft.com/fastft/366271/venezuela-bolivar

Death In Venezuela: Food Fights




http://blogs.barrons.com/emergingmarketsdaily/2015/08/03/death-in-venezuela-food-fights/


Venezuela orders food produce to be handed over to state shops

http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/world/americas/article4504218.ece

Scarce Tampons Eat Up a Third of Venezuelan Salaries

Last month, both Venezuelan men and women were shocked to find out the new prices of tampons, sanitary pads, and other personal hygiene products set by the national government.

Overnight, sanitary pads went from costing Bs. 70 (US$0.15 at the black-market rate) to Bs. 1,290 ($3, a 1,800 percent increase). To foreigners it may seem not much, but Venezuela’s current minimum wage of Bs. 7,421 amounts to barely $20. Considering an average woman needs two packs, this means a her period can consume one third of her salary.

http://blog.panampost.com/pedro-garcia/2015/07/02/scarce-tampons-eat-up-a-third-of-venezuelan-salaries/
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Re: Venezuela (#FeeltheBern)
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2015, 06:40:29 PM »

Debbie Vasserman Schultz, the DNC chairman, was asked by both Chris Mathews and Chuck Todd (both liberals) what were the differences between Socialists and Democrats. She answers that the important question is the difference between Republicans and Democrats. Which to me begs the question of why won't she answer the question directly? Well here are a couple things that come to my mind. One is she wouldn't want to point out a difference that might offend the important Socialist block of their voting constituency, or two, there is so little difference between the two there is nothing worth mentioning. So she is in a bind.   

Any way she answers this question is a political loser. She either ticks off the Socialists, or she risks waking
up clueless mainstream Dems that were somehow oblivious to the fact the Dem party is in fact a socialist party.

Now what if this was a situation where a Republican Chairman wouldn't answer a question? Well I expect the media would be asking every republican candidate what they thought the answer was, with a follow question asking why they thought the chairman wouldn't answer. 
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Re: Venezuela (#FeeltheBern)
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2015, 07:08:39 PM »

I don't know how that lady got a job doing anything.

She is the most abrasive sarcastic person I've ever seen.
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Re: Venezuela (#FeeltheBern)
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2015, 08:18:59 PM »

You knew when the "Term Limits" were thrown out - you had a dictatorship taking over... 

All that oil revenue - and nothing for the people,   corruption must be rampant.

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Re: Venezuela (#FeeltheBern)
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2015, 10:07:41 PM »

And speaking of Socialist Venezuela. Chavez and Maduro promised to provide their poor a free lunch. They got their votes. Now there isn't hardly any food for anybody. 
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Re: Venezuela (#FeeltheBern)
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2015, 09:16:22 AM »

Unless the citizens take control they are on their way to communism as the leaders are trying to ban opponents and take control of the legislature - ensuring they keep power where they want it.
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But we have to pass the bill so you can find out what is in it, away from the fog of the controversy.
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Re: Venezuela (#FeeltheBern)
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2016, 08:39:31 AM »


Venezuela sits on the world's largest oil reserves, but they are broke and hungry due to their socialist policies and state control of their market.

I wonder if Sean Penn will go down and take a victory lap?





It could be too late to avoid catastrophe in Venezuela

Why Venezuela? First, because while most other oil exporters used the boom to put some money aside, former president Hugo Chávez, who died in 2013, used it to quadruple the foreign debt. This allowed him to spend as if the average price of a barrel of oil was $197 in 2012, when in fact it was only $111. He also used it to maim the private sector through nationalisations and import controls. With the end of the boom, the country was put in a hopeless situation.

The year 2015 was an annus horribilis in Venezuela with a 10 per cent decline in gross domestic product, following a 4 per cent fall in 2014. Inflation reached over 200 per cent. The fiscal deficit ballooned to 20 per cent of GDP, funded mainly by the printing press.

In the free market, the bolivar has lost 92 per cent of its value in the past 24 months, with the dollar costing 150 times the official rate: the largest exchange rate differential ever registered. Shortages and long queues in the shops have made daily life very difficult. No wonder the government lost the elections for the National Assembly in December.

As bad as these numbers are, 2016 looks dramatically worse. Imports, which had already been compressed by 20 per cent in 2015 to $37bn, would have to fall by over 40 per cent, even if the country stopped servicing its debt.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/204fc996-c8d5-11e5-a8ef-ea66e967dd44.html
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Re: Venezuela (#FeeltheBern)
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2016, 09:24:21 AM »

Good job republican brother Excelsior! Keep muddying the waters and equating Socialism with Democratic Socialism.  If we can't beat them with our excellent group of republican candidates maybe we can convince them Bernie is just like Chavez!  And make sure no one sees the difference! Keep this stuff hidden and maybe we can win! https://newrepublic.com/article/121680/bernie-sanders-democratic-socialist-not-just-socialist

ANYTHING TO WIN! Republicans forever!
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Re: Venezuela (#FeeltheBern)
« Reply #8 on: February 04, 2016, 09:39:53 AM »

Imagine a program in which everyone pays into a collective and the money is used by those in need.

Doesn’t that sound like evil “Socialism?”  It’s actually called “insurance” and we all freely participate. 

Not all “Socialism” is bad and yes there are different degrees of Socialism.  Comparing Chavez to Bernie Sanders is pretty misleading.
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Re: Venezuela (#FeeltheBern)
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2016, 10:27:12 AM »

Imagine a program in which everyone pays into a collective and the money is used by those in need.

Doesn’t that sound like evil “Socialism?”  It’s actually called “insurance” and we all freely participate. 


Nice comparison of apples and cylinder blocks.

An individual choosing to buy insurance is voluntary.  Just like folks giving freely to the United Way to help those in need.

Socialism is involuntary and requires government compulsion.
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Re: Venezuela (#FeeltheBern)
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2016, 11:10:07 AM »

An individual choosing to buy insurance is voluntary.

Not if you have a mortgage or own a car in Michigan.
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Re: Venezuela (#FeeltheBern)
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2016, 11:18:33 AM »

I'm not so sure about all those drivers in Detroit.  And what is the uninsured motorists insurance all about on my car ins?
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Re: Venezuela (#FeeltheBern)
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2016, 11:51:20 AM »

Nice comparison of apples and cylinder blocks.
Funny I was going to say the same thing about the title of your thread.
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Re: Venezuela (#FeeltheBern)
« Reply #13 on: February 04, 2016, 06:25:23 PM »



I'm not so sure about all those drivers in Detroit.  And what is the uninsured motorists insurance all about on my car ins?


I think this is the answer to what you're asking about the uninsured fee on your auto insurance...

Also interesting (according to the attached blogger...

I've heard you say before that half the people in Deetroit don't buy insurance so I think that's what you're referring to here...

but he also says that one car out of five in Lambertville and Temperance doesn't have insurance either...

that's a 1 in 5 'gamble'  ;) ;) ;)

http://www.michiganautolaw.com/buying-car-insurance/uninsured-underinsured-motorist-coverage/

http://www.michiganautolaw.com/blog/2011/08/31/uninsured-motorist-coverage/
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Re: Venezuela (#FeeltheBern)
« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2016, 06:37:18 PM »

So that's why our rates are so high.  I'm betting if two veh get into accident and neither one has insurance they both still collect from the fund to pay medical and lost wages
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