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[BigRedDog]

Sounds like we may be keeping an eye on these 'old' pipes another 10 years or so.  I'm wondering how much this tunnel will end up costing the taxpayers before it's over.  I'm guessing the money would rebuild a lot of roads and sewers across the state!!! 

https://www.uppermichiganssource.com/content/news/Concern-and-anticipation-surround-possible-Line-5-Pipeline-Tunnel-Proposal--493882481.html

[SidecarFlip]

I'm for just shutting line 5 down and scrapping the pipe.  We all know who will pay for a tunnel and it ain't Enbridge.

[BigRedDog]

This article is of the opinion that the USofA is "awash" in oil...

so why is Snyder so intent on helping Canada push their oil across out waterways and lands?  Let them just purchase what they need from the US production sites and shut down Line 5.  If they really, really need it they can build a pipeline around the great lakes and hopefully when their pipes leak it will only pollute their own back yards!!!

https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/09/22/pipeline-companies-are-racing-to-solve-this-100-mi.aspx

[SidecarFlip]

Maybe because the nerd is getting greased by the oil lobby here in Michigan....  Seems as though money talks and voters and Michiganders walk in this state.  Loomkat Randy Richardville as an example.

[SidecarFlip]

I see Snyder reached a 'closed door' deal with Enbridge concerning the Line 5 fiasco.  Enbridge is to build out, over the next 10 years at a cost of 50 million, a tunnel under the straits to carry a newly constructed Line 5.  It will be 100 feet below the bed of the Straits and large enough to drive a vehicle through for inspection.  Enbridge plans to offset the cost by 'leasing' the space to other utilities so they can receive rent payments.

My issue with it is, Line 5 stays in operation, unabated, for the next decade while the tunnel and new pipeline is constructed.

Enbridge stated that no tax dollars will be used for construction.  I also have an issue with that.  In as much as the State of Michigan receives no compensation from Line 5 whatsoever and all the crude from Line 5 goes to Sarnia, Ontario for Canadian consumption, not domestic consumption, I think Enbridge should be paying rent on the ground the pipeline takes up, based on gallons of flow per day.

They are getting a helluva deal right now and what happens if Line 5 pops it's cork in the next decade?

Issues to ponder.

Of course not a word about it in the Monroe News.  It was however, in the Toledo Blade on the front page on Tuesday.

I sometimes wonder about the level of professionalism at the MN.

[SidecarFlip]

Interesting that there is no comment.  I'd say that besides the poor choice for governor this election, Line 5 is the hot subject....

[blue2]

I don't think most people care about line 5 or even know what it is

[SidecarFlip]

People in Michigan especially need to be aware of the implications of a Line 5 rupture.  If it lets go, the entire upper lakes will be impacted, including any drinking water coming from the lakes.

I was very surprised that the MN never put anything in the paper concerning it.  The Blade had it on the front page...

[SidecarFlip]

Snider is attempting to fast track the agreement so Whitmer is powerless to circumvent it. 

While I didn't vote for her, she is totally against the tunnel and wants line 5 shut down forever.  Her attorney General elect is also against it>  Snyder is trying to finalize the agreement before he leaves office.  Sneaky bastard.  They want the bridge authority to manage and oversee the tunnel and I read the Bridge Authority don't want to do it because it will tax their manpower.

I really hope that Snider don't finalize the agreement so Whitmer can get Enbridge and Line 5 out of Michigan.  Bad del all around.  One has to wonder how much Snyder is getting greased from the oil lobby and Enbridge.  Snyder and his 'dark money.

My opinion of Snyder has changed radically.  The 'nerd' turned into a 'turd'.

[SidecarFlip]

I don't think most people care about line 5 or even know what it is

and when it pukes they all will be scratching their butts and wondering how the government will handle it.  Meanwhile toe lake shore will turn into a black gooey mess.

The pipeline was put into operation in 1953.  I'd say it's outlived it's useful life and the State has gotten ZERO in revenue from it.