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Any good tips on treating and preventing 'split' finger tips?
« on: February 12, 2016, 11:07:24 AM »

I've had two split in two days and I never have this problem...

my wife has had issues with it for years but not me!!!

I know it's especially dry out right now plus I've been doing a lot of work in the barn and using a lot of the 'Fast Orange' hand cleaner and I'm thinking that may be part of the problem.

Anyway, and 'home remedies' or prevention techniques?
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Re: Any good tips on treating and preventing 'split' finger tips?
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2016, 11:28:15 AM »

Can't help.  I don't know what i'm doing differently but i have to clip my nails at least twice a week now.
Although i do drink more orange juice fortified with calcium in the winter months.
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Re: Any good tips on treating and preventing 'split' finger tips?
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2016, 01:02:39 PM »


I've had two split in two days and I never have this problem...

my wife has had issues with it for years but not me!!!

I know it's especially dry out right now plus I've been doing a lot of work in the barn and using a lot of the 'Fast Orange' hand cleaner and I'm thinking that may be part of the problem.

Anyway, and 'home remedies' or prevention techniques?

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Re: Any good tips on treating and preventing 'split' finger tips?
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2016, 01:34:26 PM »

Like Blue says, clip those nails. Maybe not be as practical for your wife though.

Before working, scrape your nails over a bar of soap, Irish Spring seemed to work best. Worked great when I was hand rolling sod at the sod farms when I was a kid. Keeps the gunk out from under the nails, washed out good at the end of a dirty day, and I think helped my skin.

Get and use some of that Utter Butter or Bag Balm kinda stuff. Usta only be at farm stores but now at most drugstores. The secretary gals always had stuff at their desk but it smelled too girly, and I think it was mostly water and fragrance. A female worker, who I thought may have been kinda butch or dyke, turned me on to it. Maybe she knew something most of us didn't.  :o

Gloves. Split grain thin gloves. Must be broke in and showing signs of use. I can keep mine tucked between my belt and my pants.  Most places it's a sign of reality. Take them off for that minute or two ya need to start a #8 screw. Driver's gloves are Okay, mechanic's gloves are greasy and are better left back at the shop. Those finger-less black leather gloves? You're a poser unless you can back it up and prove to me otherwise.  8)
When a  guy shakes your hand and notices how rough they are, he judges your status and income level. A gal may be impressed by noticing you being a handyman, but doesn't really want those sandpapers on her tender parts.  ;)
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Re: Any good tips on treating and preventing 'split' finger tips?
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2016, 04:49:05 PM »

I assumed it was a skin issue...not a nail issue...but I'm surprised nobody recommended soaking your finger "in cider" (or in side her)    ;D

If it is skin...it could be contact dermatitis
http://www.healthline.com/health/contact-dermatitis

Or maybe it's fungal
http://www.healthgrades.com/symptoms/cracked-skin

How to Heal Cracked Skin on Fingers
http://www.wikihow.com/Heal-Cracked-Skin-on-Fingers

I've had some sort of callous on my knuckles in the past...and sometimes with deep painful cracks.

Not sure where they originated but I've seen 'em on people that wrench on cars a lot...like I used to.

Even Jay Leno has 'em.

Could be a hand cleaner thing.

Whenever they became painful, I'd just apply some Neosporin ointment, and keep my hands as moisturized as possible.

Even to the point of slathering 'em and wearing nitrile gloves to bed.

But since I haven't wrenched anything lately...no more knuckle issue.
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Re: Any good tips on treating and preventing 'split' finger tips?
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2016, 04:52:05 PM »

I assumed it was a skin issue...not a nail issue...but I'm surprised nobody recommended soaking your finger "in cider" (or in side her)    ;D

You beat me to that one Fry!
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Re: Any good tips on treating and preventing 'split' finger tips?
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2016, 05:50:45 PM »

Like Blue says, clip those nails. Maybe not be as practical for your wife though.

Before working, scrape your nails over a bar of soap, Irish Spring seemed to work best. Worked great when I was hand rolling sod at the sod farms when I was a kid. Keeps the gunk out from under the nails, washed out good at the end of a dirty day, and I think helped my skin.

Get and use some of that Utter Butter or Bag Balm kinda stuff. Usta only be at farm stores but now at most drugstores. The secretary gals always had stuff at their desk but it smelled too girly, and I think it was mostly water and fragrance. A female worker, who I thought may have been kinda butch or dyke, turned me on to it. Maybe she knew something most of us didn't.  :o

Gloves. Split grain thin gloves. Must be broke in and showing signs of use. I can keep mine tucked between my belt and my pants.  Most places it's a sign of reality. Take them off for that minute or two ya need to start a #8 screw. Driver's gloves are Okay, mechanic's gloves are greasy and are better left back at the shop. Those finger-less black leather gloves? You're a poser unless you can back it up and prove to me otherwise.  8)
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My wife gets it from doing the 'cash accounting' at work.  Handling all that (nasty filthy) cash causes problems with the skin drying out.  The paper currency absorbs whatever moisture is in your hands.  Not really much you can do with gloves on though.

Years ago before she was working and it was working out in the woods and garden that got her hands the same way we found some 'goat skin' gloves...   they worked...  made her hands nice and soft even but mainly prevented the finger tips splitting...

the worst thing was the nasty smell from the goat skin :o :o :o 

Seems like we got them at TSC so we'll have to look and see if they still carry them.  I did find them online.

I work with gloves on much of the time but as you know you just can't do some things with gloves on and there are a lot more things that take longer to do with gloves on.  I have access to good leather gloves so do wear them a lot although at times I just wear the $1/pair brown jersey gloves...   I think maybe they are what is causing this current 'outbreak'. 

I did just go check for some balm...

found a can from Hartz...

it's for the dogs but it's on my fingers now...

woof woof ;D ;D ;D

I assumed it was a skin issue...not a nail issue...but I'm surprised nobody recommended soaking your finger "in cider" (or in side her)    ;D

If it is skin...it could be contact dermatitis
http://www.healthline.com/health/contact-dermatitis

Or maybe it's fungal
http://www.healthgrades.com/symptoms/cracked-skin

How to Heal Cracked Skin on Fingers
http://www.wikihow.com/Heal-Cracked-Skin-on-Fingers

I've had some sort of callous on my knuckles in the past...and sometimes with deep painful cracks.

Not sure where they originated but I've seen 'em on people that wrench on cars a lot...like I used to.

Even Jay Leno has 'em.

Could be a hand cleaner thing.

Whenever they became painful, I'd just apply some Neosporin ointment, and keep my hands as moisturized as possible.

Even to the point of slathering 'em and wearing nitrile gloves to bed.

But since I haven't wrenched anything lately...no more knuckle issue.



You beat me to that one Fry!


I guess I should have been more specific...

both splits are on my right hand and my left hand is just fine 8) 8) 8)

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Re: Any good tips on treating and preventing 'split' finger tips?
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2016, 06:06:50 PM »

My wife gets them year round and has a prescription from the doctor. They are much worse in the Winter though. Doc says hers are a form of dermatitis brought on by having her hands in soapy water a lot during the day. Very painful suckers. I used to get them when I worked with solvents at work. It evaporated quickly and dried my fingers out and they would split at the tips. We had a small green can, the size of a hockey puck, of special stuff but I can't remember what it's called. They sell it at Tractor Supply.

Or you could use this.  :o

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Re: Any good tips on treating and preventing 'split' finger tips?
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2016, 07:30:20 PM »

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Could be a hand cleaner thing.

Whenever they became painful, I'd just apply some Neosporin ointment, and keep my hands as moisturized as possible.

Even to the point of slathering 'em and wearing nitrile gloves to bed.

But since I haven't wrenched anything lately...no more knuckle issue.


Neosporin and cover with a bandaid is my wife's 'first aid' approach.  I always have a box of the nitrile gloves around and I've seen her put some lotion on her hands and then put the nitrile gloves on and go to bed!!!


Probably 25 years ago I 'discovered' the Fast Orange down in Florida (where else).  But it was not what the current GoJo/Permatex brand is.  It was supposed to be some of the waste products from orange processing.  We were right in the center of the orange production so it seemed logical for it to be in that area.  Rather than the pumice GoJo uses it seemed to be more just shredded orange peels....

and it smelled a lot more 'citrussy' (Chrome says that isn't a word ;D ;D ;D ). 

I just pulled up the MSDS for the current stuff...

lots of alcohol but exact amounts are a 'trade secret' so they're exempt with disclosing...   

What's up with that ??? ??? ???

http://www.apauto.com/SDS%20Branded/Chemicals/Fast%20Orange/FAST%2025219.pdf

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*The exact percentage (concentration) of composition has been withheld as a trade secret.
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Re: Any good tips on treating and preventing 'split' finger tips?
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2016, 08:44:59 PM »

BRD I think your gal is on the right track. I'd just bump up her recommendations to A&D ointment right away, then follow with Bacitracin/Neosporin after.

Stay the heck away from alcohol based stuff except for immediate cleaning, it's only drying out that area and making it crack again. Peroxide has a time and place for boiling out debris.

Get rid of those old, cheap gloves, even in the dark and cold they are harboring stuff just waiting for you to warm them back up with an easy place to eat.

Never use a greasy ointment beyond the first 24-48 hours for topical treatment. It's a germ, lint, and other filth, magnet. After that wash it often with a non-alcohol anti-bacterial soap and get a good thing like Vaseline Intensive Care, do it as often as possible.

This is all based on my (too) many tattoos  8), all topical wound care. A lot of money and (chair) time invested.  What works for me is based on trial and (sometimes)  :'( error.

Now for my deeper wounds I followed others care instructions.  :)


« Last Edit: February 12, 2016, 09:42:06 PM by arpydave »
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2016, 09:57:13 PM »

I found it.  Okeeffe's

« Last Edit: February 12, 2016, 10:11:49 PM by Tiny »
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Re: Any good tips on treating and preventing 'split' finger tips?
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2016, 06:59:18 AM »

I did find this on YouTube...

heal your fingers in hours!!!!!!

Heal Dry, Cracked, Split Fingertips in Hours
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Re: Any good tips on treating and preventing 'split' finger tips?
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2016, 07:21:40 AM »

Did some research 'online' and I can see where I really helped to create 'the perfect storm' situation.

The cold dry weather carries the least moisture so it makes for the worst situation...

working in the barn on some 'old' grease with many years of dirt embedded so having to use lots of hand cleaner.

Not doing enough 'preventive maintenance' ahead of time.

I made a lot of progress over night from using the dog's balm:



The dogs didn't seem to mind but the cat kept bothering me this morning before I got out of bed :o :o :o

Here's a couple of other articles with lots of comments and suggestions...

some we had hit on here and some we didn't.

http://www.wikihow.com/Heal-Cracked-Skin-on-Fingers

http://www.myhomeremedies.com/topic.cgi?topicid=3134

I've heard of using super glue to do a quick 'mend' on the tissue but I just can't bring myself to do that...   

not sure what else might end up stuck to my finger tips :o :o :o

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Re: Any good tips on treating and preventing 'split' finger tips?
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2016, 07:56:52 AM »

My wife had a big jug of aloe vera and I added my 'stress relief' hand lotion from Bath and Body Works...

I cut the finger and thumb out of one of my nitrile disposable gloves.  I get those at AutoZone but I'm sure even the big box stores would have them in their auto departments.

I finished up at 7:44 am so I'll take one off at 10:44 and see if it's 'healed' yet!!!

Actually I'll be happy even if it takes the 6 hours ;D ;D ;D

Both splits feel better already...

better than the did with the dog balm...   (sorry BRD)!!!

And I'm keying away without messing up my keyboard. 

Doubt I'll be able to use my finger tips on my phone or tablet though ;) ;) ;)
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Re: Any good tips on treating and preventing 'split' finger tips?
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2016, 07:41:04 PM »

I buy Nitrile gloves at Harbor Freight
http://www.harborfreight.com/#

I suggest the extra large
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