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When People Become Obsessed With Other People
« on: September 22, 2018, 10:44:47 AM »

Interesting article.

It appears Flip and a few of his cronies are all suffering from some level of OCD...

maybe they can get a group discount for some diagnosis and treatment!!!

http://beyondocd.org/expert-perspectives/articles/when-people-become-obsessed-with-other-people
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« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2018, 11:26:43 AM »

LOL!  Actually a pretty good read and a few familiar flags.  I remember as a kid always hearing "Nobody Likes A Know-it-All."  Still annoys me to this day.

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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2018, 04:19:17 PM »

 Some info, if needed.

What are the traits of a narcissist?
The characteristics of npd  (personality disorder)

    Arrogance and Domineering. People with NPD are likely to have arrogant qualities, and will assert one's own ideas over others in an air of superiority and pride. ...
    Grandiosity. ...
    Preoccupation with Success and Power. ...
    Lack of Empathy. ...
    Belief of Being Unique. ...
    Sense of Entitlement. ...
    Requires Excessive Admiration. ...
    Exploitative...


   
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« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2018, 05:55:37 PM »

I think you can unscramble some of those letters and spell out SidecarFlip.
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« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2018, 06:28:52 PM »

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder/diagnosis-treatment/drc-20366690

Diagnosis
Some features of narcissistic personality disorder are similar to those of other personality disorders. Also, it's possible to be diagnosed with more than one personality disorder at the same time. This can make diagnosis of narcissistic personality disorder more challenging.

Diagnosis of narcissistic personality disorder typically is based on:

Signs and symptoms
A physical exam to make sure you don't have a physical problem causing your symptoms
A thorough psychological evaluation that may include filling out questionnaires
Criteria in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5), published by the American Psychiatric Association
Treatment
Treatment for narcissistic personality disorder is talk therapy (psychotherapy). Medications may be included in your treatment if you have other mental health conditions.

Psychotherapy
Narcissistic personality disorder treatment is centered around talk therapy, also called psychotherapy. Psychotherapy can help you:

Learn to relate better with others so your relationships are more intimate, enjoyable and rewarding
Understand the causes of your emotions and what drives you to compete, to distrust others, and perhaps to despise yourself and others
Areas of change are directed at helping you accept responsibility and learning to:

Accept and maintain real personal relationships and collaboration with co-workers
Recognize and accept your actual competence and potential so you can tolerate criticisms or failures
Increase your ability to understand and regulate your feelings
Understand and tolerate the impact of issues related to your self-esteem
Release your desire for unattainable goals and ideal conditions and gain an acceptance of what's attainable and what you can accomplish
Therapy can be short term to help you manage during times of stress or crisis, or can be provided on an ongoing basis to help you achieve and maintain your goals. Often, including family members or significant others in therapy can be helpful.

Medications
There are no medications specifically used to treat narcissistic personality disorder. However, if you have symptoms of depression, anxiety or other conditions, medications such as antidepressants or anti-anxiety drugs may be helpful.

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Lifestyle and home remedies
You may feel defensive about treatment or think it's unnecessary. The nature of narcissistic personality disorder can also leave you feeling that therapy is not worth your time and attention, and you may be tempted to quit. But it's important to:

Keep an open mind. Focus on the rewards of treatment.
Stick to your treatment plan. Attend scheduled therapy sessions and take any medications as directed. Remember, it can be hard work and you may have occasional setbacks.
Get treatment for alcohol or drug misuse or other mental health problems. Your addictions, depression, anxiety and stress can feed off each other, leading to a cycle of emotional pain and unhealthy behavior.
Stay focused on your goal. Stay motivated by keeping your goals in mind and reminding yourself that you can work to repair damaged relationships and become more content with your life.
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« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2018, 07:54:21 PM »

Humm........I believe many in here accused FrenchFry of being like this.  Now Flip......whom shall be known to me going forward as FFF.

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Arrogance and Domineering. People with NPD are likely to have arrogant qualities, and will assert one's own ideas over others in an air of superiority and pride. ...
    Grandiosity. ...
    Preoccupation with Success and Power. ...
    Lack of Empathy. ...
    Belief of Being Unique. ...
    Sense of Entitlement. ...
    Requires Excessive Admiration. ...
    Exploitative...
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Re: When People Become Obsessed With Other People
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2018, 09:44:16 PM »

It amazes me how good everyone is at identifying personality flaws in others while they fail to see their own issues.

Oh well.

It's human nature.
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« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2018, 10:17:47 PM »

Most certainly that's the case, it's human nature........just like varying opinions and respecting the rights of having them or stating them without personalizing it if your opinions don't match.  Varying opinions are human nature as well.
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2018, 09:58:36 AM »

It amazes me how good everyone is at identifying personality flaws in others while they fail to see their own issues.

Oh well.

It's human nature.

Believe me MN I really don't enjoy being like this but I am trying to make a point with all your 'double standards' and all.

If you really, really, really don't like it then maybe you need to start condemning everyone on the board for their similar actions and not just the people you aren't tag teaming with. 

All you have to do is admit that life is all about 'what' is right and wrong and not 'who' is right and wrong! 

I do think you're actually smart enough to see the difference but you're afraid to speak out against the other members of your 'team'!!!

You can't have it both ways...   if you want to receive some respect you have to dish some out yourself.


Now, on a more serious note...

Flip matches just about every characteristic on the list:

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The characteristics of npd  (personality disorder)

    Arrogance and Domineering. People with NPD are likely to have arrogant qualities, and will assert one's own ideas over others in an air of superiority and pride. ...
    Grandiosity. ...
    Preoccupation with Success and Power. ...
    Lack of Empathy. ...
    Belief of Being Unique. ...
    Sense of Entitlement. ...
    Requires Excessive Admiration. ...
    Exploitative...

If you really and truly are a 'friend' of Flips then you need to be encouraging him to seek out some help. 

All the rest of us can do is point out his 'issues' but you can maybe talk him into seeking some help. 

Ask your wife about it...

I'd guess she can help point him in the right direction. 

One thing I've noticed is that Flip's condition has been getting worse the last couple of years. 

Time may be of the essence before he goes off the deep end. 
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2018, 10:02:34 AM »

Some info, if needed.

What are the traits of a narcissist?
The characteristics of npd  (personality disorder)

    Arrogance and Domineering. People with NPD are likely to have arrogant qualities, and will assert one's own ideas over others in an air of superiority and pride. ...
    Grandiosity. ...
    Preoccupation with Success and Power. ...
    Lack of Empathy. ...
    Belief of Being Unique. ...
    Sense of Entitlement. ...
    Requires Excessive Admiration. ...
    Exploitative...


 

Excellent info NewDawn. 

Interesting that a few of our posters exhibit many of those characteristics. 

Thanks for posting and I'll be singing "Delta Dawn, what's that flower you have on?" for the rest of the day ;) ;) ;)
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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2018, 02:11:07 PM »

Brd

You are the poster child for my post.

Sorry if you can't see that.
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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2018, 09:41:57 AM »

Brd

You are the poster child for my post.

Sorry if you can't see that.

No, I don't see that...

but what's more important than your opinion or my opinion is 'public opinion'! 

I don't know how many other posters have reached out to you but I've had several reach out to me with the same basic message...

"keep fighting the good fight"...

and so I will continue!!!
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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2018, 09:47:01 AM »

Some info, if needed.

What are the traits of a narcissist?
The characteristics of npd  (personality disorder)

    Arrogance and Domineering. People with NPD are likely to have arrogant qualities, and will assert one's own ideas over others in an air of superiority and pride. ...
    Grandiosity. ...
    Preoccupation with Success and Power. ...
    Lack of Empathy. ...
    Belief of Being Unique. ...
    Sense of Entitlement. ...
    Requires Excessive Admiration. ...
    Exploitative...


I just wanted to bring this list back to the top again in case any of our newer followers are trying to keep track...
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Re: When People Become Obsessed With Other People
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2018, 11:38:47 AM »

I'm praying for him every morning when I awaken, and again at night before I go to sleep that God will see it in his heart to help him through those character flaws.
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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2018, 07:39:54 PM »

I'm praying for him every morning when I awaken, and again at night before I go to sleep that God will see it in his heart to help him through those character flaws.

Yes.

I am also praying for BRD.
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