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Re: Trump Impeachment
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2019, 07:45:31 PM »

Top Biden campaign aides sent letter to NBC, CBS, CNN, MSMBC, Fox
etc. not to book Rudy G. on their programs. From the article:

"The note was sent to executives and top political anchors at ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox News and NBC, including interviewers like Jake Tapper, Chuck Todd and Chris Wallace. In it, the Biden campaign argues that Giuliani’s appearances on television allow him to mislead the viewing public."

Ain't that rich. Ask MSLSD and CNN to ban Rudy because "he" would say something "misleading". If these two networks banned everyone making appearances on their network that mislead the viewing public they'd eviscerate from their programs 98% of their guests.

And notice, there was no effort to refute Rudy's claims. Silence him. Surprised they didn't throw in Rudy is a know racist.
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« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2019, 09:59:35 PM »


It appears John wants to flood the media before the IG Horowitz report hits about the FISA abuse:


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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2019, 06:50:18 AM »

It appears John wants to flood the media before the IG Horowitz report hits about the FISA abuse:




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« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2019, 09:37:58 AM »

Dems running scared..
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« Reply #19 on: October 01, 2019, 08:08:14 PM »

Following is the ending of a progressive's article. Yes I read the other side from time to time.

For one thing, Trump's entire defense against the Mueller investigation boiled down to the assertion that it was a witch hunt engineered by far-left Democrats and pursued by a hostile special counsel. Some Republican voters probably didn't care and just stayed by the president's side out of nothing more complicated than tribal loyalty. But others undoubtedly bought the "witch hunt" line. This is a highly dangerous constituency for the president — because they have now learned, along with the rest of us, that after the investigation of the 2016 election was complete, Trump actively attempted to do precisely what he was accused of doing by the special counsel: seeking to advance his domestic political prospects by soliciting help from a foreign power. This could well be leading some Republicans and independents to re-evaluate what they have believed about Trump and to reflect on precisely how much political treachery they are willing to stomach in the name of making America great again."

OK let's look at the following phrase: "that after the investigation of the 2016 election was complete". Complete? That's all he has to say about the end of the witch hunt named after Mueller? Doesn't mention the fact that when the investigation was "complete" the verdict was no collusion. 

I'll get back with more stuff on this blurb of the lefty.
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« Reply #20 on: October 01, 2019, 11:45:12 PM »

Its been interesting to watch the Media convict without facts,   and Schiff  allowed to lie...   

hope the Barr report comes out soon! 
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« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2019, 07:08:38 AM »

I'm just amazed how they gloss over all the Democrats misdeeds - and go after Trump for trying to fight corruption.

Mindboggling.
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« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2019, 08:48:29 PM »

Something I learned in the last few days.

To bring up to date. Pelosi declared an impeachment probe whereby the 6 Dem run committees can give the Trump administration an anal exam. From that examination they will present the "facts" so as to determine whether the house should vote to impeach the President.

Here's is what I learned. Traditionally the congress would vote to begin an impeachment probe by these committees, meaning every representative would have to go on the record.
If you're a first term Dem congresswoman elected in 2018, in a normally Republican district,
you don't want to be voting yes on an obviously bogus political hit job on Trump. So Nancy got to shiv Trump and protect her marginal members at the same time.

It gets better. Doing it this way also means the Republican minority can't call witnesses, only the Dems. Somebody needs to fact check me on this claim. I may be confused. It doesn't make sense that the Republicans wouldn't also have the right to subpoena witnesses.   



 
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« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2019, 08:01:04 AM »

Something I learned in the last few days.

To bring up to date. Pelosi declared an impeachment probe whereby the 6 Dem run committees can give the Trump administration an anal exam. From that examination they will present the "facts" so as to determine whether the house should vote to impeach the President.

Here's is what I learned. Traditionally the congress would vote to begin an impeachment probe by these committees, meaning every representative would have to go on the record.
If you're a first term Dem congresswoman elected in 2018, in a normally Republican district,
you don't want to be voting yes on an obviously bogus political hit job on Trump. So Nancy got to shiv Trump and protect her marginal members at the same time.

It gets better. Doing it this way also means the Republican minority can't call witnesses, only the Dems. Somebody needs to fact check me on this claim. I may be confused. It doesn't make sense that the Republicans wouldn't also have the right to subpoena witnesses.   



 

But then all those marginal members came out publically in support of it - so even though Nancy was trying to protect them they were too dumb to take her up on the offer.
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« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2019, 09:48:23 AM »

If the House votes for impeachment then it goes to the Senate, right?  The Senate is then able to subpoena whoever they want, include all the past criminals in the CIA and FBI.  Dems may not want that.
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« Reply #25 on: October 03, 2019, 10:15:28 AM »

If the House votes for impeachment then it goes to the Senate, right?  The Senate is then able to subpoena whoever they want, include all the past criminals in the CIA and FBI.  Dems may not want that.

If I was McConnell I would start preparing and publishing a list of all the people that were going to have to testify, and I would make sure Joe and Hunter Biden and Hillary were at the top of the list.

I agree it would all go away quickly then.
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« Reply #26 on: October 03, 2019, 10:23:52 AM »

I can't substantiate it but I'd bet right now that most politicians from both parties are discussing with each other how far this is going to go.  It's all a show..
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« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2019, 07:02:07 AM »

I can't substantiate it but I'd bet right now that most politicians from both parties are discussing with each other how far this is going to go.  It's all a show..

And all the actors are bribed handsomely to play their parts.

Just when you think the swamp can't get any worse.

And by the way - it seems like Whitmer is expanding the swamp in Lansing.
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Re: Trump Impeachment
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2019, 11:59:54 AM »


Strange that our press has largely ignored that Ukraine meddled in the 2016 election.


Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446


Ukraine Court Rules Manafort Disclosure Caused ‘Meddling’ in U.S. Election


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/12/world/europe/ukraine-paul-manafort.html
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« Reply #29 on: October 07, 2019, 08:16:05 PM »

Its been interesting to watch the Media convict without facts,   and Schiff  allowed to lie...   

hope the Barr report comes out soon!

DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz has submitted his draft report on the FISA warrants to Barr in September so he likely has read the coming IG report.   

Bill appears to be traveling the globe with federal prosecutor John Durham.  I think it means Barr saw something in the draft report that requires face to face discussions. 

Their stop in Italy to view Joseph Mifsud video deposition should prove interesting.  Obama's DOJ has claimed that Mifsud was a Russian agent while his attorney claimed he is was working with western intelligence.   If Mifsud was working as a western agent then it means Obama had weaponized the counter intelligence apparatus against U.S. citizen DJT and Robert Muller hid it.
   

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"The beginning of wisdom is a definition of terms." ~ Socrates

"No rational argument will have a rational effect on a man who does not want to adopt a rational attitude." ~ Karl Popper

"What vitiates entirely the socialists economic critique of capitalism is their failure to grasp the sovereignty of the consumers in the market economy." ~ Ludwig von Mises

“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”  ~ Socrates
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