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[marilyn.monroe]

Guess what?!
I'd rather have that bumbling idiot in office than DeVos. Her damage will be easier to undo!

[marilyn.monroe]

And I'd like to see Fred Fuller make a run for Governor.

[El Guapo]

And I'd like to see Fred Fuller make a run for Governor.

The one that owns the oil company or the one that's a member of the rocky mountain swing club?

Honestly, what has he done besides being a drain commissioner?

[marilyn.monroe]

I think this Country & State would benefit from an influx of new blood into the political gene pool.

[El Guapo]

I think this Country & State would benefit from an influx of new blood into the political gene pool.

But yet you rag on Ron Paul in an earlier post!  Less than 5 hours ago.  Which is it? 

[marilyn.monroe]

The only peeve I have w/ Paul was questioning whether or not he was in the race to win.
I have since resolved that in mind that he is getting a message across and uniting people.
I would add he is an experienced politican, but one I can live with!

[SMASH]

I have more faith in government than I do in big business, but that's not saying much.

Think I'm going to go read The Constitution. It's been a while.

If I remember correctly it does set out the specifics for each branch of our government.
Last I checked it didn't give the economically elite the right to rule America.

Washington, Adams, Hamilton, Madison, etc. were by no means paupers.

[marilyn.monroe]

Well note they are ELECTED leaders.

[monrovian]

Third Version:
The ant is required to pay a 10% tax to pay for roads, defense, sanitation, and other important social functions, including food for the starving.
The ant finds loopholes to reduce what would be his fair share down to 1/2 of 1%, but nonetheless pays to support for the operation of his community, where a portion are living in luxury and a portion are suffering.
His meager tax, which barely has an effect on his well being, helps the grasshopper to survive the winter, after which he learns his lesson and has a better plan for the following summer.

The moral: The greatness of a society is measured by how it treats its poor, its sick, and its elderly. Stop whining about having to pay your fair share for living in an affluent society and look around at how many people are suffering in what is supposed to be a great nation.

[Griff]

Third Version:
The ant is required to pay a 10% tax to pay for roads, defense, sanitation, and other important social functions, including food for the starving.
The ant finds loopholes to reduce what would be his fair share down to 1/2 of 1%, but nonetheless pays to support for the operation of his community, where a portion are living in luxury and a portion are suffering.
His meager tax, which barely has an effect on his well being, helps the grasshopper to survive the winter, after which he learns his lesson and has a better plan for the following summer.

The moral: The greatness of a society is measured by how it treats its poor, its sick, and its elderly. Stop whining about having to pay your fair share for living in an affluent society and look around at how many people are suffering in what is supposed to be a great nation.

I'd Love to Change the World"~ Ten Years After

"Tax the rich,"
"Feed the poor."
"Till their are,"
"Rich, no more."
"I'd love to change the world.."
"But I don't know what to do."
"So I'll leave it up to you."

It may also be said that the greatness of a society is judged by how many of its down-on-the-luck change their position.

Our poor, elderly and uneducated have cars, cable, cell phones, wide-screen TVs, health care, retirement AND ample opprtunity to change their life's position.

That being said, I am all for me paying my 'fair share.'

Exactly how much is 'fair?'

peace,
Griff

[PXaiver]

I'd Love to Change the World"~ Ten Years After

"Tax the rich,"
"Feed the poor."
"Till their are,"
"Rich, no more."
"I'd love to change the world.."
"But I don't know what to do."
"So I'll leave it up to you."

It may also be said that the greatness of a society is judged by how many of its down-on-the-luck change their position.

Our poor, elderly and uneducated have cars, cable, cell phones, wide-screen TVs, health care, retirement AND ample opprtunity to change their life's position.

That being said, I am all for me paying my 'fair share.'

Exactly how much is 'fair?'

peace,
Griff

$200,000 a year net.  Anything above and beyond that goes to the government for socialized health care, education, infrastructure repair, the space program, and right on down the line.

[old salt]

$200,000 a year net.  Anything above and beyond that goes to the government for socialized health care, education, infrastructure repair, the space program, and right on down the line.

"right on down the line."..........a slippery slope if ever I've seen one.

Who's going to fill all those jobs that currently pay over $200,000 net?  Who's going to work at all when the govt. programs can support us?


Socialism doesn't work...........never has........never will.

[PXaiver]

"right on down the line."..........a slippery slope if ever I've seen one.

Who's going to fill all those jobs that currently pay over $200,000 net?  Who's going to work at all when the govt. programs can support us?


Socialism doesn't work...........never has........never will.

Neither does Capitalism...

[El Guapo]

Third Version:
The ant is required to pay a 10% tax to pay for roads, defense, sanitation, and other important social functions, including food for the starving.
The ant finds loopholes to reduce what would be his fair share down to 1/2 of 1%, but nonetheless pays to support for the operation of his community, where a portion are living in luxury and a portion are suffering.
His meager tax, which barely has an effect on his well being, helps the grasshopper to survive the winter, after which he learns his lesson and has a better plan for the following summer.

The moral: The greatness of a society is measured by how it treats its poor, its sick, and its elderly. Stop whining about having to pay your fair share for living in an affluent society and look around at how many people are suffering in what is supposed to be a great nation.

You don't actually believe this rhetoric, do you?  No one pays 1/2 of 1%.  In fact the original 10% sounds great to me.  I would love to pay that little.  I'm not saying that some people get out of paying some taxes, but you open yourself up to audits, and you will eventually fall into the Alternative Minimum Tax if you have too many deductions.  That rate starts at 26%!  Don't believe the hype!

[El Guapo]

$200,000 a year net.  Anything above and beyond that goes to the government for socialized health care, education, infrastructure repair, the space program, and right on down the line.

I'll bet your mind would change if you had the opportunity to make well over that amount!