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Re: Cayman Islands
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2008, 10:47:31 AM »

hurricanes seem to love the place!


That's why I don't like the Caribbean... :P
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Re: Cayman Islands
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2008, 10:59:57 AM »

He said COMPANIES, I said name them, and you bring up hedge funds. 

Most companies are registered in Delaware, if not all 50 states.


I did name some companies, and I will try to find more answers.
Not sure what you mean about Delaware.
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Re: Cayman Islands
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2008, 11:01:22 AM »

http://www.sec.gov/answers/hedge.htm
"Unlike mutual funds, however, hedge funds are not required to register with the SEC. Hedge funds typically issue securities in “private offerings” that are not registered with the SEC under the Securities Act of 1933. In addition, hedge funds are not required to make periodic reports under the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. But hedge funds are subject to the same prohibitions against fraud as are other market participants, and their managers have the same fiduciary duties as other investment advisers."

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Re: Cayman Islands
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2008, 11:51:48 AM »

Of course most companies incorporation is registered in Delaware.  But they maintain a presence in Cayman.   I don't know all the details.  But i can guarantee you they relocate one or more of their employees to make it all legal.  Certain transactions between the corporation's US operations and foreign countires are funneled thru the shell company in Grand Cayman.
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Re: Cayman Islands
« Reply #19 on: April 13, 2008, 12:07:38 PM »

I don't know all the details.  But i can guarantee you

Well then it must be true!
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Re: Cayman Islands
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2008, 01:12:32 PM »

Delaware has some of the best incorporation laws in the US.  That is why companies will set up a office and incorporate in Delaware.
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Re: Cayman Islands
« Reply #21 on: April 14, 2008, 01:51:20 AM »

Yep.  I'm going there next month.  Can't wait.

Let me know if there is extra room for a stow-away in your suitcase.

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Re: Cayman Islands
« Reply #22 on: April 14, 2008, 02:19:25 AM »

Ah the Cayman islands  8)

I have all my money there .....all $22 of it . ;)
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Re: Cayman Islands
« Reply #23 on: April 14, 2008, 05:54:34 AM »

Delaware has some of the best incorporation laws in the US.  That is why companies will set up a office and incorporate in Delaware.
I spent a little time looking at Delaware's laws when studying the bankruptcy and abuse allegations against DeVos family's company Alterra (emerged from bankruptcy and lawsuits, joined with Brookdale & incorporated in Delaware).
*Section 102 of the Delaware General Corporation Law, as amended, or the
DGCL, allows a corporation to eliminate the personal liability of directors to a
corporation or its stockholders for monetary damages for a breach of a fiduciary
duty as a director, except where the director breached his duty of loyalty,
failed to act in good faith, engaged in intentional misconduct or knowingly
violated a law, authorized the payment of a dividend or approved a stock
repurchase or redemption in violation of Delaware corporate law or obtained an
improper personal benefit.
*Section 145 of the DGCL provides, among other things, that a corporation may
indemnify any person who was or is a party or is threatened to be made a party
to any threatened, pending or completed action, suit or proceeding (other than
an action by or in the right of the corporation) by reason of the fact that the
person is or was a director, officer, employee or agent of the corporation, or
is or was serving at the corporation's request as a director, officer, employee
or agent of another corporation, partnership, joint venture, trust or other
enterprise, against expenses, including attorneys' fees, judgments, fines and
amounts paid in settlement actually and reasonably incurred by the person in
connection with the action, suit or proceeding. The power to indemnify applies
if (i) such person is successful on the merits or otherwise in defense of any
action, suit or proceeding or (ii) such person acted in good faith and in a
manner he or she reasonably believed to be in or not opposed to the best
interests of the corporation, and with respect to any criminal action or
proceeding, had no reasonable cause to believe his conduct was unlawful. The
power to indemnify applies to actions brought by or in the right of the
corporation as well, but only to the extent of defense expenses (including
attorneys' fees but excluding amounts paid in settlement) actually and
reasonably incurred and not to any satisfaction of judgment or settlement of the
claim itself, and with the further limitation that in such actions no
indemnification shall be made in the event of any adjudication of negligence or
misconduct in the performance of his duties to the corporation, unless a court
believes that in light of all the circumstances indemnification should apply.
I can see why those who believe business should come before the people would think Delaware is a good place to Incorporate. Those same people probably think drug company immunity in Michigan is a good thing to.
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Re: Cayman Islands
« Reply #24 on: April 14, 2008, 06:14:59 AM »

Incorporate in Delaware...
* Delaware’s large body of business laws helps a company plan carefully to avoid a lawsuit.
* Delaware’s Chancery Court oversees matters involving Delaware’s General Corporate Law and has a reputation as one of the finest courts in the country.
* Chancery Court issues decisions without jury trials, so their decisions are written, well thought-out and easy to follow.

Delaware has a separate Court of Chancery, a business court. The Court does not use juries and the judges are appointed on merit, not elected. Because there are no juries, decisions from the Chancery Court are issued as written opinions. Because of that, Delaware has a large body of written legal precedent to rely upon.

Delaware’s General Corporation Laws make it the friendliest state in America for corporations.

http://www.delawareintercorp.com/t-WhyIncorporateinDelaware.aspx

Take it from the experts...Delaware is a great place to incorporate if you don't give a crap about citizen's rights!
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Re: Cayman Islands
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2008, 10:02:07 AM »

Of course it's ture.  I know what i'm talking about.  You don't.
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Re: Cayman Islands
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2008, 11:09:58 AM »

Of course it's ture.  I know what i'm talking about.  You don't.

names?
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Re: Cayman Islands
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2008, 12:00:06 AM »

The Los Angeles Times reported that former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney, used shell companies in at least two offshore havens while running Bain Capital LLC, the Boston-based private-equity firm. Romney spokesman Kevin Madden told the Times there was nothing improper about the registration of funds in Bermuda and the Cayman Islands and that Romney didn't defer or avoid paying U.S. taxes.
;)
So, Is Romney guilty or not?
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Re: Cayman Islands
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2008, 06:22:58 PM »

names?
Why don't you quit trying to confuse things and contribute.
If you can get to the bottom of Hedge Fund ownership...good for you. You can't even get info on Hedge Funds unless you are worth a million. The bit of info I have been able to find leads to more funds! A lot of insurance companies and pension funds invest in them. There is plenty of info on who Hedge funds own, tho! Some info @ privateequityinfo.com if you have an idea what you're looking for.

I think you can come away from the subject with two thoughts...
1. How can I get in on the action? or
2. This has got to be the biggest group of underhanded, wasteful, greedy, unpatriotic bunch of people I have ever seen.
 
If we are good enough to bail these losers out we are good enough to report to.

I don't think earnings from "real" work should be taxed more than investment gain!



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Re: Cayman Islands
« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2008, 06:52:23 PM »

Why don't you quit trying to confuse things and contribute.
If you can get to the bottom of Hedge Fund ownership...good for you. You can't even get info on Hedge Funds unless you are worth a million. The bit of info I have been able to find leads to more funds! A lot of insurance companies and pension funds invest in them. There is plenty of info on who Hedge funds own, tho! Some info @ privateequityinfo.com if you have an idea what you're looking for.

I think you can come away from the subject with two thoughts...
1. How can I get in on the action? or
2. This has got to be the biggest group of underhanded, wasteful, greedy, unpatriotic bunch of people I have ever seen.
 
If we are good enough to bail these losers out we are good enough to report to.

I don't think earnings from "real" work should be taxed more than investment gain!





I'm not confusing the issues.  The poster said all corporations, so I aked him/her to name one...they haven't yet.  Don't make a empty claim just to create fear and hate.  Back up your claims.

BTW, I just saw some stats that show the top 60% of wage earners pay 99% of all federal income taxes, and the United States has the second highest corporate tax rates in the world.  I wonder whose 1st?
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