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Re: How can their be "Reverse Discrimination"
« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2007, 07:02:23 PM »

If discrimination is ever going to end, it must end in it's entirety.
Two wrongs do not make a right- ever.
Our kid's future depends on equality in terms of no descrimination.
I also have a friend who was a victim of the Michigan State Police policy for hiring minorities. What a shame. Is it someone-in-power's belief that eventually we will right all the wrongs that history holds?
There is no way to right all the wrongs that are IMO the dark pages of our nation's history; however, sooner than later the descrimination/ reverse descrimination must stop! This includes preferential treatment in hiring, advancement, education, taxing(casinos) and all other forms not mentioned here.
Yes I realize this is not a perfect world, but I would love to see a presidential candidate have a platform for strengthening our nation and promoting equality among all, rather than the continued bashing of the other candidates.
IMO, we all are Americans...not 'African', 'Native', 'Muslim', 'Spaninsh', 'Mexican', 'Italian', 'French' or any other 'type' of Americans.
Now, in my PC mode, I'm sorry if I offended anyone- not.
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Re: How can their be "Reverse Discrimination"
« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2007, 07:13:24 PM »

back around 1974 or 75 the toledo city police dept were hiring quite a few new officers...they only took 1 out of 3 white males...the other two were woman and blacks... so only 1 out of 3 could be white males...sure it was long ago but what would you call that?
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Re: How can their be "Reverse Discrimination"
« Reply #32 on: September 03, 2007, 07:46:19 PM »

IMO, we all are Americans...not 'African', 'Native', 'Muslim', 'Spaninsh', 'Mexican', 'Italian', 'French' or any other 'type' of Americans.

We aren't all treated as "American". I guarantee you I spend 2x as long in a custom's line as a more "white" "American" simply because they are trying to determine if I am legal or not.

I guarantee you a Muslim who has walked onto a plane and heard the people around him request NOT to be seated next to "the terrorist" doesn't feel all that American.

And while I don't want these stereotypical actions to continue, I'm proud of my heritage. I want to be identified for who I am on my terms, not the terms of the majority.
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Re: How can their be "Reverse Discrimination"
« Reply #33 on: September 03, 2007, 08:25:29 PM »

IMO, we all are Americans...not 'African', 'Native', 'Muslim', 'Spaninsh', 'Mexican', 'Italian', 'French' or any other 'type' of Americans.



I guarantee you a Muslim who has walked onto a plane and heard the people around him request NOT to be seated next to "the terrorist" doesn't feel all that American.


i would prefer to be seated next to him.
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Re: How can their be "Reverse Discrimination"
« Reply #34 on: September 03, 2007, 09:01:42 PM »



We aren't all treated as "American". I guarantee you I spend 2x as long in a custom's line as a more "white" "American" simply because they are trying to determine if I am legal or not.


I believe once the passport issue is resolved, so should the above situation.


I guarantee you a Muslim who has walked onto a plane and heard the people around him request NOT to be seated next to "the terrorist" doesn't feel all that American.


If someone says they don't want to be seated next to 'the terrorist', they should be treated in the same manner as if they say 'bomb', cavity search and all. This should provide the necessary deterrent.


And while I don't want these stereotypical actions to continue, I'm proud of my heritage. I want to be identified for who I am on my terms, not the terms of the majority.


If you wish to be identified for who you are on your terms rather than an American, your actions or the definition of division.

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Re: How can their be "Reverse Discrimination"
« Reply #35 on: September 03, 2007, 09:12:58 PM »


We aren't all treated as "American". I guarantee you I spend 2x as long in a custom's line as a more "white" "American" simply because they are trying to determine if I am legal or not.

I believe once the passport issue is resolved, so should the above situation.
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You believe that because it's not your reality. American passport or not, I get asked more questions than others around me. I am asked all questions twice and often they call in a second person. They insist I am from a Spanish-speaking country and am lying about having previously been there. Is it a big deal? In the grand scheme of life, no. But if it happened to you I have a feeling you wouldn't be so quick to answer.
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Re: How can their be "Reverse Discrimination"
« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2007, 08:03:56 AM »


We aren't all treated as "American". I guarantee you I spend 2x as long in a custom's line as a more "white" "American" simply because they are trying to determine if I am legal or not.

I believe once the passport issue is resolved, so should the above situation.
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You believe that because it's not your reality. American passport or not, I get asked more questions than others around me. I am asked all questions twice and often they call in a second person. They insist I am from a Spanish-speaking country and am lying about having previously been there. Is it a big deal? In the grand scheme of life, no. But if it happened to you I have a feeling you wouldn't be so quick to answer.

You are very right. I don't fully understand as it is not my reality. But in this sense, we are now discussing security issues related to travel whereas the majority of my post was in relation to life in general and the peace and equality we all should have as Americans.
I would be quite upset if I had to go through the harassment and interrogation efforts you seem to encounter and I definately sympathize with you for that.
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Re: How can their be "Reverse Discrimination"
« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2007, 08:20:11 AM »

If everybody would please just hit enter once or twice after you select “Reply with quote” then your comments would start a line or two below the quote box making it much easier for everyone to view.

Perhaps the M.E.N. software could be tweaked to make sure the replies don’t get mixed in with the quotes.
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Re: How can their be "Reverse Discrimination"
« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2007, 08:25:29 AM »

The whole point behind me posting this was that the reverse of discrimination is NO discrimination.

Thus, reverese discrimination means no discrimination was made. Discrimination is not a forward or backward thing. It is what it is.

I think that it is funny how hard the PC world trys to title every offense in the world. If a black boss fires a white kid because of tattoos, it is not reverse dicrimination, it is discrimination. DERR!
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Re: How can their be "Reverse Discrimination"
« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2007, 09:29:15 AM »

Even funnier how UPPITY the white people get when any other culture says anything derogatory about the white power establishment but anything stated by a non white, gets torn to shreds!

Grey Crow, I hear every word your saying and I believe I understand and agree with your points and I am a white male.

I love the American Predator label.. It is so true.
Bush didn't unite us, 9-11 did.  Jessica Simpson could have united Americans after that.
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Re: How can their be "Reverse Discrimination"
« Reply #40 on: September 04, 2007, 10:34:36 AM »

The whole point behind me posting this was that the reverse of discrimination is NO discrimination.

Thus, reverese discrimination means no discrimination was made. Discrimination is not a forward or backward thing. It is what it is.

I think that it is funny how hard the PC world trys to title every offense in the world. If a black boss fires a white kid because of tattoos, it is not reverse dicrimination, it is discrimination. DERR!


Agreed! It is what it is!
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Re: How can their be "Reverse Discrimination"
« Reply #41 on: September 04, 2007, 12:30:17 PM »

It's not so much "Reverse Discrimination" as it is a double standard for blacks and whites...When a white person screws up, it ignites a debate on the screw up. When a black person screws up, it ignites a debate on race.

Jessica Simpson could have united Americans after that.

I wouldn't go that far...LOL
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Re: How can their be "Reverse Discrimination"
« Reply #42 on: September 04, 2007, 04:47:05 PM »

Zard, you are a genius! So true.
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