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Re: Gold, Silver, and the IRS. What they don't want you to know!
« Reply #1710 on: July 07, 2012, 09:41:50 PM »

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So FF are you willing to buy Greek Bonds to tide them over until their economic
growth solves the problem? By the way. How's the Greek economy doing?

Just a bridge loan away from exploding?
But you're advocating Greek style austerity here....which has already proven to be a disaster.

You righties have to move away from your "make everything worse agenda"

Republican policies have been complete and utter failures.

Don't kid yourself, in November the electorate will remember which party caused this mess and which party has obstructed progress.

Your Republican Party is "DONE"....and calling yourself a "Conservative" or a member of the "Tea Party" doesn't mean squat.....there's no distinction...they're all a waste of good oxygen.

I'm curious why your blinders have you limited to just two subjects...gold and all but done, when there's an active "Austerity" topic that would be better suited for the discussion.
http://monroetalks.com/forum/index.php?topic=26152.0
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« Reply #1711 on: July 07, 2012, 10:27:55 PM »

Don't kid yourself, in November the electorate will remember which party caused this mess and which party has obstructed progress.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. People in general are stupid. Think about it. The average IQ is 100 (In the US it has actually fallen to 98) http://sq.4mg.com/NationIQ.htm , and 1/2 the population is dumber than that.

And even in Presidential elections, only 70% of the people are registered to vote and only about 1/2 of the registered voters actually vote. If all you needed was more than 1/2 of the votes, you only need about 18% of the people to actually vote for you.

Rich people are more likely to vote than poor people. And older people are more likely to vote than younger ones.

So while I hope that your assertion that people will remember is true, I'm afraid that it isn't.

Because, again, generally people are stupid.
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« Reply #1712 on: July 08, 2012, 09:30:10 AM »

Does your pasting this video mean you stand behind what Krugmen says?

Does that mean you believe that TMT is even more knowledgeable and more an expert than a Nobel Prize winning economist?  I know TMT is a smart guy and all, but able to back up what Krugman says is a stretch? ? ?
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« Reply #1713 on: July 08, 2012, 08:29:23 PM »

Does that mean you believe that TMT is even more knowledgeable and more an expert than a Nobel Prize winning economist? 
I know TMT is a smart guy and all, but able to back up what Krugman says is a stretch? ? ?


Duck:

If I were to paste a column by a Walter Willaims, or a Thomas Soul, and someone asked me if I stood behind the article I could provide a yes. It doesn't mean I'm more knowledgeable, it just means I understand their argument, I agree with it, can discuss it, and argue it's merits.

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Re: Gold, Silver, and the IRS. What they don't want you to know!
« Reply #1714 on: July 08, 2012, 09:34:38 PM »

Duck:

If I were to paste a column by a Walter Willaims, or a Thomas Soul, and someone asked me if I stood behind the article I could provide a yes. It doesn't mean I'm more knowledgeable, it just means I understand their argument, I agree with it, can discuss it, and argue it's merits.
I read your post before you edited it.

It said something about 99% of people on the forum ignoring my posts....and touted something about your posts garnering more responses.

If true...that would mean they value the opinion of a salesman such as yourself over that of the truthful fact-filled educational articles and videos gleaned from the 'net.

Marginalizing Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman won't lend credence to the stories you or your fellow Tea Party member are spinning....he's a motorcycle mechanic...and you're a salesman.....but maybe I'm unaware of your advanced degrees in the areas you two pretend to have expertise.

I'm not saying I'm any better....and that's why I rely on the experts...not people like you or your followers that absorb the lies of the right, parrot them and then spend the rest of the time with heads buried in the sand.

As for the comparison about who evokes a response....not much remains to be said for irrefutable posts...but for the folks like you parroting the lies/talking points of the right....sometimes people are compelled to set the record straight...hence the reason you think you attract more interest...but the bottom line is...whatever floats your boat.

I can't do anything about willful ignorance.
The desire for knowledge and truth must come from within.
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« Reply #1715 on: July 08, 2012, 10:26:46 PM »

I edited/deleted part of my post because it served no purpose and fired a shot that was unnecessary. Major factual errors in your recollection aside, you can either accept this response and let it be, or not. If not, I'll respond.
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« Reply #1716 on: July 08, 2012, 10:50:54 PM »

I edited/deleted part of my post because it served no purpose and fired a shot that was unnecessary. Major factual errors in your recollection aside, you can either accept this response and let it be, or not. If not, I'll respond.
You're right...you didn't say 99%...you said "the majority"
I'll stand by the rest.
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« Reply #1717 on: July 08, 2012, 11:21:35 PM »

You're right...you didn't say 99%...you said "the majority"
I'll stand by the rest.

FF:
I guess it is "or not". First, I didn't write anything about people ignoring FF
pastes, I wrote about the people ignoring the pastes of the "paster-in-chief".
You identified yourself, not that it was any big mystery. Next I mentioned
that your lack of responses was so dismal that you had to resort to responding to yourself. The fact that people respond significantly more to original posts
that demonstrate the poster engaged their brain isn't a mystery either.
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« Reply #1718 on: July 08, 2012, 11:40:50 PM »

FF:
I guess it is "or not". First, I didn't write anything about people ignoring FF
pastes, I wrote about the people ignoring the pastes of the "paster-in-chief".
You identified yourself, not that it was any big mystery. Next I mentioned
that your lack of responses was so dismal that you had to resort to responding to yourself. The fact that people respond significantly more to original posts
that demonstrate the poster engaged their brain isn't a mystery either.
LOL...well if the readers prefer taking their advice from a salesman and a motorcycle mechanic rather than more astute sources with expertise in the subject matter then so be it.

I'm beginning to suspect that you're baiting people with personal insults and blatant inaccuracies just to elicit responses.

Your competitive quest to garner the most replies reminds me of when lawmakers create useless laws as some sort of accomplishment on their resume.

But I'll not stand in the way of you getting your jollies.
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« Reply #1719 on: July 10, 2012, 08:41:15 PM »

LOL...well if the readers prefer taking their advice from a salesman and a motorcycle mechanic rather than more astute sources with expertise in the subject matter then so be it.

FF:

I understand. If a salesman or a mechanic were running things this country
would be messed up. Thank goodness we have the more astute running the show. 
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« Reply #1720 on: July 16, 2012, 02:21:58 AM »

Well, just got back in town and it's good to see the conversation is getting a little frisky!

As far as Krugman is concerned I could care less if he won a Nobel Prize.
Obama got his out of a Craker Jack Box!

Let's watch a Professor from Spain who is living the crisis in Europe explain to The Krugster how his failed policies are screwing Eurpoe and what they are really asking Germany to do.

I realize this video is long but the end is priceless.
Krugman has no answer to this Professor and has to fall back on the atypical methodology of Liberals; Attack, threaten, and name call.

Paul Krugman schooled by Spanish "Austrian" Economist Pedro Schwartz
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« Reply #1721 on: July 16, 2012, 02:33:18 AM »

Now a short word about the Banksters and how again our media is asleep at the wheel; Or part of the problem.

Maybe, just maybe, Libor will be the beginning of the end?

The peril for the "dollar" continues to escalate and there is virtual silence from Washington?

Wonder why?

It's over for the banking cabal. 4.jul.2012
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« Reply #1722 on: July 16, 2012, 03:21:28 AM »

Well, just got back in town and it's good to see the conversation is getting a little frisky!

As far as Krugman is concerned I could care less if he won a Nobel Prize.
Obama got his out of a Craker Jack Box!

Let's watch a Professor from Spain who is living the crisis in Europe explain to The Krugster how his failed policies are screwing Eurpoe and what they are really asking Germany to do.

I realize this video is long but the end is priceless.
Krugman has no answer to this Professor and has to fall back on the atypical methodology of Liberals; Attack, threaten, and name call.

Paul Krugman schooled by Spanish "Austrian" Economist Pedro Schwartz
Watched the video...and found your take to be less than honest....typical methodology of a rightie.
BTW..your partisan assessment was false....it's the right that attacks, threatens, and name calls.

Krugman was very cordial. That foreign nut is the one that became upset.

Take a look at all the signatures on his "Manifesto for Economic Sense"
http://www.manifestoforeconomicsense.org/

And then look for the credentials of THE guy you found:
"Economist Pedro Schwartz"

I had to wade through endless links posted by righties touting the video as some sort of answer to Krugman...but I couldn't find out anything.

You righties found ONE guy out of the multitude out there...and your rose colored glasses imagined something that just wasn't there.

As for LIBOR....that's a subject worth discussing

FED Knew About LIBOR Scandal in 2007

GOP ignores lessons of Wells Fargo, Barclays, JP Morgan scandals
Martin Bashir - GOP ignores lessons of Wells Fargo, Barclays, JP Morgan scandals

"Eric Cantor Is A Man Who Shorted U.S. Treasury Bonds For His Own Financial Gain This Is UNPATRIOTIC

"Eric Cantor Is A Man Who Shorted U.S. Treasury Bonds For His Own Financial Gain This Is UNPATRIOTIC
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« Reply #1723 on: July 16, 2012, 04:29:20 AM »

Watched the video...and found your take to be less than honest....typical methodology of a rightie.
BTW..your partisan assessment was false....it's the right that attacks, threatens, and name calls.

Krugman was very cordial. That foreign nut is the one that became upset.

Take a look at all the signatures on his "Manifesto for Economic Sense"
http://www.manifestoforeconomicsense.org/

And then look for the credentials of THE guy you found:
"Economist Pedro Schwartz"

I had to wade through endless links posted by righties touting the video as some sort of answer to Krugman...but I couldn't find out anything.

You righties found ONE guy out of the multitude out there...and your rose colored glasses imagined something that just wasn't there.

As for LIBOR....that's a subject worth discussing

FED Knew About LIBOR Scandal in 2007

GOP ignores lessons of Wells Fargo, Barclays, JP Morgan scandals
Martin Bashir - GOP ignores lessons of Wells Fargo, Barclays, JP Morgan scandals

"Eric Cantor Is A Man Who Shorted U.S. Treasury Bonds For His Own Financial Gain This Is UNPATRIOTIC

"Eric Cantor Is A Man Who Shorted U.S. Treasury Bonds For His Own Financial Gain This Is UNPATRIOTIC
You could have stopped at the first video, it said it all.
Obama, and Romney will do nothing about LIBOR.
They are owned BY the bankers.

However, Congress could use Timmy Geitner to impeach Obama with this one!
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« Reply #1724 on: July 20, 2012, 12:46:09 PM »

While looking around today at lunch I came across a video that touches on something we discussed here way back in Feburary.
The Washington Post decided to fact check and study a piece Ben Swann did about gas prices and their relation to the price of gold in his "Reality Check" segment of the Channel 19 News show some months ago.
Those videos are also posted in this topic.

The original post I made was on Feb. 24th on page 103 of this topic, if you would like to go back and look at it.

It seems the Washington Post is in total agreement with Mr. Swann and myself. Gold, NOT the fiat dollar is the benchmark for the price of oil, which tranlates into the price of gas.

When you have the price of oil moving over a 26 year period only 6 dollars in terms of gold, yet flexing over 89 dollars a barrel in Federal Reserve Notes, the data is very telling.

As I have said before, to the disdain of a few; Gold is money and in the rest of the world it still drives the bus. We better get our fiscal and monetary house in order soon or it is over.

And, no ladies and gentlemen, neither Obama or Romney will do a damn thing to change it. The money monopoly and the political duopoly at the top want things to remain just as they are. Simply because all the dough flows straight up to them. What is strangly ironic is some that have posted here in the past decry "Trickle Down Economics" yet seem perfectly fine with a "Pump to the Top" monetary policy?


Fiat Dollar Is The Real Reason For High Gas Prices
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