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« Reply #105 on: September 27, 2008, 04:01:27 PM »

Of course I’m biased…..War mongers McCain/Palin would destroy our country.

Those that won’t vote for Obama because of his skin color or his name should be ashamed.

I agree.
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« Reply #106 on: September 27, 2008, 08:00:46 PM »

Of course I’m biased…..War mongers McCain/Palin would destroy our country.

Those that won’t vote for Obama because of his skin color or his name should be ashamed.






im not ashamed. i have no reason to be.  ;)
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« Reply #107 on: September 27, 2008, 08:01:56 PM »

Oooo, I beg to differ. I can provide a LIST.  ;D
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« Reply #108 on: September 28, 2008, 04:51:37 AM »

trained attorneys are what gets this country (and states) in trouble to begin with.

we need qualified business people to run the country. after all...it is a business.

oh yes.... trained business people... Paulson maybe... Goldman sachs... fannie mae... AIG... ...enron...do I need to go on.....
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« Reply #109 on: September 28, 2008, 10:36:20 AM »

I do not know about the debate, but there is no way Obama will lose the election.
Nothing is guaranteed until it happens. But the polls are showing that Obama had taken quite a lead.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/maps/obama_vs_mccain/?map=5
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« Reply #110 on: September 28, 2008, 11:21:53 AM »

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we need qualified business people to run the country. after all...it is a business.

Just because it deals with trillions of dollars doesn't make it a business. What business is it in, exactly? If anything, it's most like a nonprofit organization. It is supposed to provide services but not make money.

It isn't a business. It's the government. Completely unique and wholly unlike anything else. All based on a document that necessitates interpretation, that requires equal and fair application and that is unlike anything else in the world.

I, for one, feel most confident having a constitutional lawyer at the helm instead of the lifelong politician he is running against. A lifelong politician who, if he is incapacitated, will be replaced by someone who has no expertise in anything.

 
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« Reply #111 on: September 28, 2008, 12:51:32 PM »

Just because it deals with trillions of dollars doesn't make it a business. What business is it in, exactly? If anything, it's most like a nonprofit organization. It is supposed to provide services but not make money.

It isn't a business. It's the government. Completely unique and wholly unlike anything else. All based on a document that necessitates interpretation, that requires equal and fair application and that is unlike anything else in the world.

I, for one, feel most confident having a constitutional lawyer at the helm instead of the lifelong politician he is running against. A lifelong politician who, if he is incapacitated, will be replaced by someone who has no expertise in anything.

 

Just what are those "services" that are enumerated in the Constitution?

Here, you may want to read this.
http://www.apfn.net/Doc-100_bankruptcy.htm

Or, this.
http://www.afn.org/~govern/mcfadden.html

Enjoy.
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« Reply #112 on: September 28, 2008, 07:52:08 PM »

I agree.

I would never vote for Obama because of his affiliations with Wright, Ayers and Farrachan.  I won't vote for McCain because of his afflilations either.
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« Reply #113 on: September 28, 2008, 10:59:59 PM »

I do not know about the debate, but there is no way Obama will lose the election.

I did not think Bush would win in 2004 either... I thought my dog could run against him and win... I will admit.. I was not a big Kerry fan... anything would of been better than Bush.. I thought the majority of the American people would see that too... alas... another four years!!!!

Don't count your chickens before they hatch.....
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« Reply #114 on: September 29, 2008, 12:10:51 AM »

McCain's Lost Chance
September began as John McCain's month and ended as Barack Obama's. McCain's high-risk wagers aimed at shaking up the campaign turned into very bad investments. And Friday's debate eliminated McCain's best chance to deliver a knockout blow to an opponent whose most important asset may be his capacity for self-correction.

McCain is supposed to own the foreign policy issue -- and he should have owned Friday's debate. During their respective primary battles, McCain was a better debater than Obama, who could be hesitant, wordy and thrown off his stride.

But the Obama who showed up at Ole Miss was sharper and more concise than the man who frequently lost debates against his Democratic foes. He was also resolutely calm in standing his ground against McCain, whose condescension became a major talking point after the debate. If Al Gore suffered from his sighs during the 2000 debates, McCain will be remembered for his supercilious repetition of seven variations on "Senator Obama doesn't understand."

This gave special power to Obama's peroration about McCain's "wrong" judgments on going to war in Iraq. McCain's dismissal of Obama brought back memories of how advocates of the war arrogantly dismissed those who insisted (rightly, as it turned out) that the conflict would be far more difficult and costly than its architects suggested.
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McCain's derisive approach may help explain why the instant polls gave Obama an edge in a debate that many pundits rated a tie -- and why women seemed especially inclined toward Obama. CNN's survey found that 59 percent of women rated Obama as having done better, with just 31 percent saying that of McCain.

An Obama adviser who was watching a "dial group" -- in which viewers turn a device to express their feelings about a debate's every moment -- said that whenever McCain lectured or attacked Obama, the Republican's ratings would drop, and the fall was especially steep among women.

But if the debate was indeed a tie -- and McCain certainly looked informed and engaged once the discussion moved from economics to foreign affairs -- this would count as a net gain for Obama. A foreign policy discussion afforded McCain his best opportunity to aggravate doubts about his foe. That opportunity is now gone.

As for the first 40 minutes devoted to the economic crisis, Obama was more forceful in addressing public anxieties. He used the occasion to tout his middle-class tax cut that a large share of the electorate doesn't even know he's proposing. Obama's campaign quickly went on the air with an ad noting that McCain did not once mention the words "middle class" during the discussion.

Thus ends a month that began with such promise for McCain. His choice of Sarah Palin as a running mate at the end of August created a fortnight of excitement among Republican loyalists who were less than enthusiastic about McCain. Some said Palin would also enhance his appeal to female voters and help him recast his candidacy as a maverick's crusade.

But it was a reckless choice. Palin has proved herself to be spectacularly unprepared for a national campaign and embarrassingly inarticulate and unreflective. She is held in protective custody by a campaign that trusts her less and less. A few conservatives have suggested she should be dropped from the ticket.

Then came McCain's abrupt foray into Washington's negotiations over a Wall Street bailout bill. His showy call for postponing Friday's debate was serenely rebuffed by Obama, and McCain was forced to retreat. The candidate with 26 years of congressional experience lost a test of wills to an opponent with just four years on the national stage.

And when McCain intervened in the rescue package discussions, his position on the matter was muddy. This champion of bipartisanship briefly stood up for a House Republican minority that was battling against a bipartisan accord largely accepted by his Senate Republican colleagues, and then he pulled back. The McCain who had once allied with such liberals as Ted Kennedy and Russ Feingold was suddenly flirting with an approach to the economic rescue that was recommended by Newt Gingrich.

The post-Labor Day period has thus brought the campaign to an unexpected point.

McCain, once the candidate of tested experience, must now battle the perception that he has become the riskier choice, a man too given to rash moves under pressure. Obama, whose very newness promised change but also raised doubts, has emerged as the cool and unruffled candidate who moves calmly but steadily forward. However one judges the first debate, it did nothing to block Obama's progress.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/28/AR2008092802233.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
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