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Matt (formerly ML)

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« Reply #90 on: March 15, 2009, 11:57:59 PM »

Your intentional obfusaction [sic] wasn't missed.


I had no intent to deceive.


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My point had nothing to do with your voting.


You should have made that clear. (<--- Click that link.)


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I don't care if you do or don't vote.


You should.


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My point was on your challenge to those of us that did something about Jim Crow and your lack of any effort to reduce the confiscatory taxes you complain about.

You are not the only tax payer that has someone elses hand in their pocket. I feel the cold grip of your hand around my property as well, thief. I see you lurking in the same shadows under cover of the mob taking what isn't yours.


You assume an awful lot, including the assumptions that I don't do anything to avoid taxes, and that I owe you something. You know I don't vote. How am I taking your property? What do I owe you?

In any event, the comparison between Jim Crow and taxation stands. Those who defied Jim Crow risked much. Those who defy taxation also risk much. Defiance of taxation via boycotting voting holds virtually no risk. Surely if you defied Jim Crow, you've got the courage to boycott voting on the question of whether or not to steal your neighbor's stuff. (<--- Another link to click.)

I didn't vote this past November. Did you?
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« Reply #91 on: March 16, 2009, 12:13:10 AM »

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You should.

Why? You find it a self-defeating and violating act, while the rest of society sees it, at best, as a civil duty, and at worst, an annoying break from their television shows. You're so out of tune with reality it isn't worth caring your position on the subject.


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You assume an awful lot, including the assumptions that I don't do anything to avoid taxes, and that I owe you something. You know I don't vote. How am I taking your property? What do I owe you?

Anyone arguing for a radical change in society or status quo is angling for something. That "something" is usually their neighbors' chicken in their own stock pots, either directly or indirectly. You are not the unique snowflake exception in human affairs, schnookums. You're looking to take as much as anyone else. You're just trying to do it as far out of the system as possible. On the bright side, you get to amass a nice collection of extremely violent and scary firearms in your basement.

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In any event, the comparison between Jim Crow and taxation stands. Those who defied Jim Crow risked much. Those who defy taxation also risk much. Defiance of taxation via boycotting voting holds virtually no risk. Surely if you defied Jim Crow, you've got the courage to boycott voting on the disposition of your neighbor's earnings.

In other words, you don't have the cajones to defy your equivalent of Jim Crow laws (taxes, voting) because the consequences are too dire. Bravo, I'll be sure to fax over the Nobel Peace Prize documents to you post haste.

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I didn't vote this past November. Did you?

I did it as much to participate in democracy as I did to violate your sense of well-being. That's right, I'm a vote-raper.
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« Reply #92 on: March 16, 2009, 12:17:58 AM »

Those who defied Jim Crow risked much.

On first thought I was wondering how the hell "taxes" and the so-called "jim crow" laws were related and was struck by an epiphany of sorts: they're related only insofar as they both relate to private property.  Where the former has only to do with taking money/FedNotes from the property owner the latter has to do with taking away all his Private Property rights.  If I had to choose the lesser of the two evils I'd advocate derailing the schemes of those who would take away either, the nearest one first.
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« Reply #93 on: March 16, 2009, 12:25:37 AM »

That's right, I'm a vote-raper.


<a href="http://twitter.com/lordfly/status/1326778624>You got married this weekend[/url], and you took time away from that to write this?

Good luck.

I'll address the remainder of your bull**** later.
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« Reply #94 on: March 16, 2009, 10:51:33 AM »

<a href="http://twitter.com/lordfly/status/1326778624>You got married this weekend[/url], and you took time away from that to write this?

Good luck.

I'll address the remainder of your bull**** later.


lol. You do realize married life isn't "joined at the hip" 24/7, right? We had a celebration with friends and family Saturday, we had a mini-honeymoon in Ann Arbor yesterday, and last night I unwound by being snarky on the internet and playing TeamFortress 2 while the wife read and took a nap. It was great.

"Taking time to write this" took less than 2 minutes. I did it brushing my teeth.

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« Reply #95 on: March 20, 2009, 01:52:08 AM »

Why? You find it a self-defeating and violating act, while the rest of society sees it, at best, as a civil duty, and at worst, an annoying break from their television shows. You're so out of tune with reality it isn't worth caring your position on the subject.

Anyone arguing for a radical change in society or status quo is angling for something. That "something" is usually their neighbors' chicken in their own stock pots, either directly or indirectly. You are not the unique snowflake exception in human affairs, schnookums. You're looking to take as much as anyone else. You're just trying to do it as far out of the system as possible. On the bright side, you get to amass a nice collection of extremely violent and scary firearms in your basement.

In other words, you don't have the cajones to defy your equivalent of Jim Crow laws (taxes, voting) because the consequences are too dire. Bravo, I'll be sure to fax over the Nobel Peace Prize documents to you post haste.

I did it as much to participate in democracy as I did to violate your sense of well-being. That's right, I'm a vote-raper.


You're the epitome of contemporary culture. You imagine everyone is a "resource", to be consumed by "society."

And, as always, you lack the ******* balls to come take from me what you imagine I owe you and your fellow cannibals. Come take what I owe you.
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« Reply #96 on: March 20, 2009, 01:56:16 AM »


You're the epitome of contemporary culture. You imagine everyone is a "resource", to be consumed by "society."

And, as always, you lack the ****ing balls to come take from me what you imagine I owe you and your fellow cannibals. Come take what I owe you.
I'll have my lackeys, aka the tax man, come and get it for me.

Please shoot him for me k?
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« Reply #97 on: March 20, 2009, 02:02:19 AM »

lol. You do realize married life isn't "joined at the hip" 24/7, right?

Check back when you've worked at being together for 20 years.
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« Reply #98 on: March 20, 2009, 02:12:12 AM »

I'll have my lackeys, aka the tax man, come and get it for me.

****.
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« Reply #99 on: March 20, 2009, 06:57:43 AM »

Check back when you've worked at being together for 20 years.

lol
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« Reply #100 on: March 20, 2009, 06:58:21 AM »

And, as always, you lack the ****ing balls to come take from me what you imagine I owe you and your fellow cannibals. Come take what I owe you.

My society takes from you quite efficiently every year and you don't do anything about it. THe wonders of society! I call it division of labor.

So no, I won't take it from you. I pay people to do that for me.
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« Reply #101 on: March 20, 2009, 09:10:27 AM »

*****.
Hey look hey gave my post 5 stars!!!!!

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« Reply #102 on: March 20, 2009, 04:55:51 PM »

My society takes from you quite efficiently every year...

You've got that part right, except for the fact that you presume to speak for everyone. *I'm* part of "your" society, and you certainly don't speak for me.

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...and you don't do anything about it.

That doesn't make it right, even if you're dead wrong.

THe wonders of society! I call it division of labor.

Any honest person calls it theft.

So no, I won't take it from you. I pay people to do that for me.

Ask yourself: could you stop paying those people if you wanted to?
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« Reply #103 on: March 20, 2009, 05:35:21 PM »

Hey look hey gave my post 5 stars!!!!!

AWESOME!!!!!

I run across people like you every day, and every time, I ask myself: how should I deal with this person?

You don't care that your neighbors, and you, are being fleeced on your word. You don't care that people break into innocent peoples' houses on your word. You don't care that people take what you've earned, as long someone else is robbed the same as you.

You'd sit on a jury and convict a person simply because a guy wearing a costume suggested you should.

You're the future.

You're already dead.













(And, no, that's not a threat of any kind. I'm referring to your conscience.)

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« Reply #104 on: March 20, 2009, 06:36:35 PM »

I run across people like you every day, and every time, I ask myself: how should I deal with this person?

You don't care that your neighbors, and you, are being fleeced on your word. You don't care that people break into innocent peoples' houses on your word. You don't care that people take what you've earned, as long someone else is robbed the same as you.

You'd sit on a jury and convict a person simply because a guy wearing a costume suggested you should.

You're the future.

You're already dead.













(And, no, that's not a threat of any kind. I'm referring to your conscience.)
....and I love you too.
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